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Shartfire #RAGE
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| 11-07-2009 05:44 PM / profile
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One thing I think should be addressed in terms of match length is OOB areas on ALL current maps. A great example is the outer walls were deemed out of bounds / illegal on fy_snow, but I've seen and heard from TWL admins using the outside walls on texture arena that they are not out of bounds. Really, what's the difference? Not that I've seen anyone go up there to avoid a knife, but who's to say someone won't try it if its not explicitly stated that its illegal? It may seem trivial, but I see it as more of a just in case type of thing.
Other areas I think would need to be addressed:
Outside wall of gg_aim_shotty
Ledges on outside walls of appartments in gg_vc2_inferno
Top of the four pillars in the middle of fy_snow
If you don't know what area I'm talking about on any maps, let me know and I can add screenies pointing out the area.
Post edited by Spitfire? at 11/7/2009 5:51:12 PM
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snizz.
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| 11-07-2009 05:53 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: ghettogeddy
to be honest flashes would ruin the fun of gun game
maybe a round time limit
How?
And a time limit would just go ahead and solve MOST of GG issues. Think about it, GG is NOT a round based mod. So in all fairness, adding a 3 minute or 4 minute round time would be great and fair without ruining the game. Once the limit is up, the round ends, no one dies and a new round begins.
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PrinceofHonor
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| 11-07-2009 07:16 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: KingofHonor
The ladder will help out GunGame...
There will still be camping.
Random is better in my opinion, but the rotation has to change everytime.
KingofHonor please get your roster inorder and stop trolling, it is one thing to have a team, but it is another to keep signing up with only one member.
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ghettogeddy
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| 11-07-2009 07:55 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: snizz.
Originally posted by: ghettogeddy
to be honest flashes would ruin the fun of gun game
maybe a round time limit
How?
And a time limit would just go ahead and solve MOST of GG issues. Think about it, GG is NOT a round based mod. So in all fairness, adding a 3 minute or 4 minute round time would be great and fair without ruining the game. Once the limit is up, the round ends, no one dies and a new round begins.
well most gg maps are wide open. someone pre flashes every round and blinds the whole team and bam there dead it would just not be fun
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snizz.
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| 11-07-2009 09:19 PM / profile
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That would be a perfect counter to the endless camping on arena or snow. Like how the teams love to bunch up in a corner. Don't be mad Ghetto because a flash would take away fpM|'s game plan, camping. 
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The Ender
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| 11-07-2009 10:14 PM / profile
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I think some people seem to be missing the point that ONLY THE KNIFER will have a flash grenade, not the entire team. The biggest advantage for this is it will ensure people can't just camp a corner when the other team is on knife.
I'll try to make my posts shorter from now on so people will read the whole thing. ;P
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The Ender
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| 11-07-2009 10:20 PM / profile
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And really, it's not fair to rip on people for camping. The choice is to run out and expose yourself, or stay back and cover. Teams who want to win will take the safer option.
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ghettogeddy
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| 11-07-2009 11:10 PM / profile
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all thats ever gona happen is someone is gona toss the flash and rush its gona be whoever gets to knife first is gona win almost no matter what
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snizz.
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| 11-07-2009 11:14 PM / profile
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I have to be honest, and I read that like 30 times. I don't understand, lol.
Ghetto, what we are saying is ONLY when you have a knifer will that knifer get a flashbang. It will:
1) Compensate for a loss of gun
2) Promote more team based knifing rather than bunnyhoping all over the place.
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awpt1x
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| 11-07-2009 11:20 PM / profile
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How about once somebody gets on knife it gives one player randomly on each team 1 flash?
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Sick Shot
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| 11-07-2009 11:59 PM / profile
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I am with you Snizz, what the hell are you trying to say, Ghetto?
Anyways, in response to Awp's question, can that be done? Can a random person be given a flash every round? Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think the GunGame mod allows you to do that.
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Sick Shot
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| 11-08-2009 12:02 AM / profile
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Also, I can almost guarantee that the flash will NOT be thrown at the beginning of the round every round.
If teams are smart, they will wait until there is one man standing on the opposite team to throw it.
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awpt1x
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| 11-08-2009 12:04 AM / profile
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There would always be some way of doing it. Would most likely have to be an eventscripts addon.
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ghettogeddy
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| 11-08-2009 02:14 AM / profile
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what im trying to say is you give knifer or any random player a flash they hold on to it till last person, flash and rush and its an easy win.
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Sick Shot
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| 11-08-2009 08:01 AM / profile
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Not necessarily.
That one player can always move around. Plus, he can easily spot the knifer because he has the flash out.
Not every flash will fully-flash the enemy.
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snizz.
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| 11-08-2009 12:42 PM / profile
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Sigh...
Ghetto, it's already not fair with gun swapping. If the team you go against is competent in away way, the last person standing will have a gun. The problem... he doesn't level. I have seen some of the WORST CS:S players ACE because they have a para and are in a corner.
So, what strat does the knifing team have besides everyone rush in at once... none. There has yet to be a successful strat for knifing for maps such as towers and arena. A flash would change all of that.
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The Ender
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| 11-08-2009 03:17 PM / profile
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Ghetto, this is where SKILL comes in. You can still avoid being knifed, but you have to be good to do it.. not rely on hiding in a corner with a para.
And are you saying it's unfair that the team that gets to knife level first has an advantage? As it is now, you get to knife level and now you're down one gun and the match turns into a pick battle because the defending team is gonna hold back, and the team on knife will be trying to pick them down to one guy with as little causality as possible.. this is stage most matches stay at for 30 + minutes.
Having a flashbang adds a whole new dynamic and make things way more interesting.
I'm not saying a flashbang is the only way, it's just the thing I've put the most thought into. Like Ghetto said, it's likely that some maps will end pretty quickly if a team can capitalize on using the flash right away, and I think that's exactly what TWL GG needs if they are going to look into doing a League.
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Redefine 1
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| 11-10-2009 12:06 AM / profile
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well. [BDS] Supports the Reverse GG ladder 
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Rubber Bullets
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| 11-11-2009 08:24 AM / profile
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remember everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You may disagree but please do not flame anyone. remember we are trying to get feedback.
If you do not agree please just state your reasons and be thorough. Like The Ender did in his last post.
Post edited by Rubber Bullets at 11/11/2009 8:25:07 AM
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Shartfire #RAGE
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| 11-16-2009 01:57 PM / profile
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Its been a few days, progress report?
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