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[kerupt^]
TWL Member
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| 06-24-2012 11:51 AM / profile
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Just curious about teams getting dropped down to the bottom of the ladder? I would like to know why opponents in my ladder have suspended players and wtf is going on. Is this pub knowledge? thx
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XAN_RAV3N
Competition Staff
NA Lead Admin
America's Army
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=IK=Doba=
TWL Member
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| 06-25-2012 09:46 AM / profile
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1. Im wondering why past suspended players are currently playing in the League
2. What about losing to a team (week 1) in which one player was just caught haxing, can we not protest that.
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XAN_RAV3N
Competition Staff
NA Lead Admin
America's Army
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| 06-25-2012 09:56 AM / profile
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The results will be fixed.
All procedures will be done by the staff.
Sometimes one player can be suspended cause he made a mistake adding his soldier at anti smurf Identifier (one wrong letter), is not reason to make him a monster.
Check this, My favorite canadian soldier, and tell me if he must be suspended too:
http://www.teamwarfare.com/viewplayer.asp?Player=selvagreg
By the rules his anti smurf identifier is wrong and we know him and know he is a great player and guy.
But I agree with you, players caught cheating, no future for them here.
We just need to be cautious and don't judge everyone with the same view.
Post edited by XAN_RAV3N at 6/25/2012 10:08:17 AM
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Feertti
Competition Staff
EU Lead Admin
America's Army
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=IK=Doba=
TWL Member
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| 06-25-2012 10:57 AM / profile
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I dont really get too involved in these things Im not sure why his ID is wrong or what it should be? his name? I dont know I just play. But I get your point, and sure for small mistakes such as this I dont think players should be penalized, but for past offences and caught hacks they should be.
Feertti .. I say if caught cheating always a cheater, toggle on or off its toggle suspension if you ask me, that rule is ridiculous.
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XAN_RAV3N
Competition Staff
NA Lead Admin
America's Army
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| 06-25-2012 11:20 AM / profile
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League rules say:
Game Hacking
Hacker caught in TWL Match:
◦Player Permanently banned from "all" games at TWL.
◦Forfeiture of the Match the player was caught hacking in.
◦The Team the player was hacking with drops 20% down the league.
And about Anti Smurf Identifier:
TWL In-Game Identifier (Anti-Smurf ID)
Players wishing to join a TWL Americas Army 3 Ladder, League or Tournament are required to list any Americas Army 3 player names they plan on using in their TWL profile. Players must do this before they attempt to join a team in a League, Ladder or Tournament as the TWL Site will block them from joining. Adding an AA3 Player Name is accomplished by the following steps:
1.Click on your TWL Player name at the top left of the TWL Page to open the dropdown menu.
2.From this menu highlight "Account Maintenance"
3.To the right of "Account Maintenance" click on "Profile".
4.On the profile screen find the section "Anti-Smurf in Game Identifiers".
5. At the bottom of the "Anti-Smurf section click on "Add another id".
6. Enter your "EXACT" Americas Army 3 soldier name and then click on "Add Identifier".
7. If you use more than one soldier name, repeat the steps to add all of them.
Please note that you must spell the AA3 Game Name exactly as it is in-game. You must accurately add all punctuation and letter case.
Post edited by XAN_RAV3N at 6/25/2012 11:24:39 AM
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[kerupt^]
TWL Member
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| 06-25-2012 02:52 PM / profile
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Personally I feel every match that player played in should be looked at and voided. Granted there is no system in place to track said stats. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Whatever catalyst pushed them to install the hacks will always happen. It was beyond obvious during our match with them what was going on after we won the first 3-4 rounds and they were down 0-4. Funny stuff just started happening. All screenshots were black. At some point, teams that keep getting busted with cheaters should be removed. I understand that no squad is immune to picking up cheaters but at some point and time, a pattern emerges.
Which brings me back to my point about black screenshots. They might not be 100% but my post from a couple weeks ago seems not so out of place now eh? If your playing at a comp level, producing good screenshots and NOT ALT TABBING during a match seems reasonable...
Post edited by [kerupt^] at 6/25/2012 2:52:57 PM
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dgodfather
TWL Member
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| 06-25-2012 03:24 PM / profile
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Teams in which Captains or Founders are banned should be disbanded and the team forced to create a new team with the remaining clean players.
It was too obvious and takes too long for things like this to come to light. Fragweiser has a ridiculous winning record in TWL, but somehow never managed to beat DA when DA had lost numerous times to opponents we had slaughtered. Our suspicions have finally come (partially) to light.
TWL has flaws.
Post edited by dgodfather at 6/25/2012 3:24:56 PM
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b3ballin
Anti-Cheat Staff
GUID Services
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| 06-25-2012 06:34 PM / profile
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Those flaws will be found no matter how long it will take. If someone is cheating you will see there account BANNED. Founders that are ban will be removed and a new founder will be placed by TWL Staff. If the teams wishes to make a different founder they can do as they please. When a team is caught with more than two cheaters Comp I believe has the right to remove the team on all competition games.
Contact Nooz or myself for any questions.
Post edited by b3ballin at 6/25/2012 6:39:37 PM
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zi.dfl
TWL Member
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| 06-25-2012 07:26 PM / profile
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Now they can merge with a different name again... it's 3rd or 4th times now ? I really can't remember...
They have damn nerve to called themselves legends...
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[kerupt^]
TWL Member
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| 06-25-2012 07:35 PM / profile
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So they just had 2 players suspended but there still on the ladders? Not sure on the numbers but I think it's over 5-10 people from DA that have been caught? I know of quite a few teams and players that won't join the rosters because they are still around...
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b3ballin
Anti-Cheat Staff
GUID Services
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| 06-25-2012 07:56 PM / profile
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Not suspended.. But Banned.
Removing the team is up to competition.
Post edited by b3ballin at 6/25/2012 7:57:27 PM
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[kerupt^]
TWL Member
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| 06-25-2012 08:42 PM / profile
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I'm confused on what comp means. Comp personnel or other teams in the league? It's safe to assume no one wants them here with their record...
If it's up to us, let's do whatever we need to to clean up the rosters...
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nooz
Lead Support Admin
Site Support & Member Services
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| 06-25-2012 10:25 PM / profile
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The team in question has been removed from the League. Any further action is pending and public discussion of this matter is done on these forums.
Follow TWL on: Facebook | Twitter | Steam
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=M@ddog=
Anti-Cheat Consultant
Senior Operations
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| 06-26-2012 09:46 AM / profile
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Comp means Competition Staff, they are the admins that actually run the ladders/leagues all over the Site. Anti-cheat admins are in a seperate set of admins that only look at anti-cheat. Comp admins refer cases of cheating to them. They make a ruling as to whether it was cheating or not. Punishments are then handed down by the Comp staff going by the rules of the ladder/league and also by TWL overall site rules.
You can see the breakdown of the AA staff here
http://www.teamwarfare.com/staff.asp?StaffGroupID=82
hope that helps explain it [kerupt^]
If you need more clarification on the staff breakdown and how it works, feel free to start a thread asking your questions.
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