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zi.dfl
TWL Member
08-26-2011 02:59 PM / profile

If ACI banned, the player is TWL banned ?

http://www.anticheatinc.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76902

http://www.anticheatinc.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76896
Post edited by zi.dfl at 8/26/2011 3:04:22 PM
SCE_Jackass
TWL Member
08-26-2011 04:05 PM / profile

should be. they have been removed from our rosters and team.
raven we need to talk about the next actions.
thanks
XAN_RAV3N
Competition Staff
NA Lead Admin
America's Army

08-26-2011 05:07 PM / profile

Yes, Zi, will be banned here too.

I'm on your service my friends.

TWL is making his part and SCE captains and founder too.

Our clan TAGs and history will be always above any situation like that.

SCE has all my support and trust, as all the other teams.

We can talk anytime Jack.
SCE_Jackass
TWL Member
08-26-2011 05:50 PM / profile

well first of all i would like to apologize to everyone, that i defended these 2 guys too. i was very displeased when we found out and their tags were removed immediately.
dont know what else to really say except sorry for the whole situation
Wonkss
TWL Member
08-26-2011 06:39 PM / profile

I told you 4 months ago they were hacking jackass dont try to play the we didnt know card..SCE beat us while he was playing and cheating SCE should be suspended and its founder suspended.
SCE_Jackass
TWL Member
08-26-2011 06:45 PM / profile

damnit wonkss are u that pigheaded. if i said one of ur players was hacking would u kick them out. serious answer wonkss. if they want to suspend us then so be it. they want to ban then they can do that too. im not asking for an argument here. i cant control what people do. now that they are caught its done
Wonkss
TWL Member
08-26-2011 06:48 PM / profile

Jackass you said to me on xfire you beleaved he was cheating that you were going to kick him out how now the story changes huh your clan is rideled with hackers and now known as a cheating clan HooaH gj man let your friends from DA join lmao gj Jackass
Post edited by Wonkss at 8/26/2011 6:49:32 PM
SCE_Jackass
TWL Member
08-26-2011 07:00 PM / profile

what is done is done
Wonkss
TWL Member
08-26-2011 08:37 PM / profile

Isn't that the truth.
XAN_RAV3N
Competition Staff
NA Lead Admin
America's Army

08-26-2011 08:38 PM / profile

Only wanna say we are dealing with that by our AC staff.

I believe is not time to discussions or provocations.

This problem can happen with any team, be weighted in your comments guys, please.
MAGAZYN
TWL Member
08-26-2011 11:49 PM / profile

YES GENTLEMEN ANOTHER BUNCH BITE THE PROVERBIAL DUST....!

Oh and please take note on the ACI thread it was .as]'s own "soldier_dood" who caught One, also well atleast 20-30 OTHERS..
THANK HIM WHEN YOU SEE HIM, HE'S EARNED MY RESPECT,.. and hopoefully yours...
He did admit though that this was the first competitive players he has caught,.. and honestly although it is a shame this happens/happend the fact that out of 30 confirmed hacker's, only 2 have competed here..

A bit of a testiment too what we all have here gents!!




... Glasseye got the other, thanks glasseye!!!

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/22781119386485388961022.jpg/
Post edited by N0t2t0ast3d.as] at 8/27/2011 12:02:24 AM
MAGAZYN
TWL Member
08-26-2011 11:59 PM / profile

dbl post *DELETE*
Post edited by N0t2t0ast3d.as] at 8/27/2011 12:02:45 AM
aaRIP
TWL Member
08-27-2011 01:47 AM / profile

SCE needs to be removed from the ladders for a while at a minimum. This type of stuff cannot go unpunished.
Feertti
Competition Staff
EU Lead Admin
America's Army

08-27-2011 06:46 AM / profile

there is already rules what we will follow, thx
http://www.teamwarfare.com/rules.asp?set=America%27s+Army+3+Ladder+Rules#15
zi.dfl
TWL Member
08-27-2011 07:55 AM / profile

The rules needs to be more drastic for the teams that take in those hackers.

Remove any wins when a hacking player played and put that team at the bottom of the ladder for the very least I say.

Or at least, put a tie for those matches, we lost to hackers and we got nothing for it, it's not justice.
SCE_Isamoor
TWL Member
08-27-2011 10:01 AM / profile

I just want to support Jack@ss and say that we (the longer-term SCE members) truly did not know about this. As Jack@ss said, they are gone from our roster and our clan and may the door hit them on the ass on the way out.

As for matching, I personally don't care if you dump us to the bottom of the ladder. I'm just here to have fun and play as a team once or twice a week. I know our internal admins are discussing what steps to take.


And Wonks, please take a deep breath. As Jackass said, would you guys kick out Andren just because SCE said he was a hacker? We took decisive action as soon as we had impartial evidence.
aaRIP
TWL Member
08-27-2011 11:23 AM / profile

Originally posted by: Feertti
there is already rules what we will follow, thx
http://www.teamwarfare.com/rules.asp?set=America%27s+Army+3+Ladder+Rules#15


So this is the only thing that happens?

Hacker caught in a Pub/Scrim:

1st offense: Player banned from TWL for 1 year. (Starting from the date the player was banned)

Raxp
TWL Member
08-27-2011 12:23 PM / profile

This thread should get locked.
Wonkss
TWL Member
08-27-2011 12:38 PM / profile

isamoor everyone knew and told you guys they were hackers they came from a hacking team that was widely talked about you guy should get what you deserve for taking in known hackers.. Try to make yourselves feel better about trying to say we didnt know and this and that or spin it whatever way you want but you knew.... By the way andren has not changed his name andren has not all of a sudden got a wicked unrealistic k/d ratio and third andren does not go from sucking ass to headhsot every round after reconnecting...So good luck with your excuses sce...
SCE_Sauzer
TWL Member
08-27-2011 01:40 PM / profile

I agree, this topic should be closed. There is no reason to argue back and forth.

As one of the Admins of SCE I will present the facts.

People who used hacks were found on our team, we removed them from our roster (not just TWL but removed from our clan as well). SCE does NOT tolerate cheating in ANY manner.

TWL's rules regarding punishment in this manner does not really do anything to our current team. We realize this does not seem to be a sufficient punishment. I am working internally to decide what measures are appropriate.
[kerupt^]
TWL Member
08-27-2011 03:59 PM / profile

Originally posted by: Wonkss
isamoor everyone knew and told you guys they were hackers they came from a hacking team that was widely talked about you guy should get what you deserve for taking in known hackers.. Try to make yourselves feel better about trying to say we didnt know and this and that or spin it whatever way you want but you knew.... By the way andren has not changed his name andren has not all of a sudden got a wicked unrealistic k/d ratio and third andren does not go from sucking ass to headhsot every round after reconnecting...So good luck with your excuses sce...


If you go by that logic wonks, there isn't a squad out there that is clean. A lot of baseless hackusations get mixed in with all the other hot air thats out there. I remember a time when you accussed me on 2-3 different accounts, on the same day, just by my playing style. Still cracks me up. *LMKWYGP* There really isn't anything anyone can do until impartial evidence is presented, like previously stated. All teams might have to go through this at one point. I can say first hand, that even years later, we still get the guily by association bs.

newayz...

Sorry to hear about this bs SCE. Funny thing is: I was playing against Swiss, Flightdeck and StealthKilla for hours when this all went down. We were working them 6-0 & 5-1 almost every set. Other than 1 encounter with Swiss that could have been explained by lag, I woulda never guessed he was haxxoring.
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