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[WC]Dragontamer=SGT
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| 07-29-2009 06:20 PM / profile
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Will there be any form of CDC? If so what kind of problems can we expect from it. I hate to throw gas on the fire but, we have lost a good many players over the problems with the "established" CDC. People tend to want to hit the button and play, not make changes or jump through hoops to get to play. AA3 had/has a great many issues which are still being worked on. CDC for the old version is still a nightmare some times and I feel to the most part we are left to figure out for ourselves. I'm still waiting on a response to my post after I placed after 2.8.5 came out. The only people I seen getting a reply were the one's asking for info that was already posted.
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{DoG}Gman
TeamWarfare Vet
TWL Retired Staff
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| 07-29-2009 07:58 PM / profile
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At this time we are having a new Anti-Cheat System program put together for us. But for the start of the AA3 we only have TWL CVARS.
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Russd3
TeamWarfare Vet
Retired Sr. Staff
TWL Contributor
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| 07-29-2009 08:11 PM / profile
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CDC will not be used on AA3. It is simply not compatible on the new engine that is used.
With that said there has been some off and on again work on a new AC client that will be much more user friendly. At this time however that client is still a ways out from being ready for AA3.
I do expect that we will have some tournament scripts ready soon (maybe even by the end of this week).
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zi.dfl
TWL Member
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| 08-04-2009 09:32 AM / profile
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Keep us informed cuz my team will be interested to comp if a good anticheat solution is offered. Let face it guys, there is a shitload of aimbot and tracker with this game..
Post edited by zi.dfl at 8/4/2009 9:37:35 AM
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popeq
TWL Member
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| 10-11-2009 08:52 AM / profile
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If nobody will make something like CDC... or even Admin spectator on match. There will be always answer on Dipute match resoult "NO EVIDENCE"
I had situation like that now. And i was preaty sure that answer will be like that.. but i had hope that u have some solution to solve cheating in TWL.. but.. U DONT HAVE IT!
U have onlu 1-2-3 days logs and SS.. what anybody can fix in 1h after match. U dont have anything to report cheaters in TWL.
Sry but it is true.
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=Highflyr=
Quality Control Staff
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| 10-11-2009 09:36 AM / profile
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Originally posted by: popeq
U dont have anything to report cheaters in TWL.
Right now until an AC client is made availiable we have punkbuster and the best cvars we can have made.
The aim is for steaming servers to stream screenshots and logs. We will not ban a team/player off the back of a non streamed screenshot or log.
I am aware the admin involved in your dispute asked for logs to be emailed to him and this was because the server was not streaming and so he could verify some information.
We do try our best and if we could have an AC client tomorrow to give us something extra to protect players we would but right now we are struggling to obtain a working one.
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popeq
TWL Member
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| 10-11-2009 01:09 PM / profile
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I know that. Thats why i sad that it would to be a good idea to put admin on match.
Sit on spectator.. watch players.. check SS.. something like that to make the game more protected then now.
When AC klient will show.. u may stop spectating .. but untill its not supported .. i dont see any other way to solve problem like that.
punkbuster and the best cvars you can have dont solve problems with cheaters. I know that becouse im an admin of Chickens Farm and we catch cheaters all the time even if we have the best settings punkbuster and the best cvars we can have made. Only admin online can handle it now.. and nothing alse..:/
I know that is pattetic for AA3. But the game is build. TWL runs a league on it. Then u must handle all problems. Even this.
Post edited by popeq at 10/11/2009 1:10:05 PM
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Chris8812
TeamWarfare Vet
TWL Retired Staff
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| 10-17-2009 01:11 PM / profile
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for the admins can you imagine how much more work they would have if there was to be a admin in each match as in some nights there can be up to like 10 or 20 matches that would be incredibly hard for any admin to sit and watch all match's plus admins are also Clan Players therefore have to play in matches them self. A admin in each match as a spec is a bit over the top as that would give them all a stupid amount of work and this also would interfere with other jobs of admins as they will be unable to check such stuff as match disputes, IRC and emails
Post edited by Chris8812.=VX9= at 10/17/2009 1:11:47 PM
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ifarted
TWL Member
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| 10-17-2009 03:44 PM / profile
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Post edited by ifarted at 10/17/2009 3:47:06 PM
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Viper963
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| 10-17-2009 08:20 PM / profile
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I had a thread going that is very similar to what you are asking popeq. But the there are some problems with the concept of having a admin in every match beyond the issue of man power to do it. It won't reduce the number of hackers because they are not afraid of getting caught. And with alot of the good hacks out now you can barely tell who's hacking and who's not. You don't want to make a mistake of punishing someone who is not hacking. So until there is a method to provide hard evidence then we are stuck where we are at now. I've experienced your frustration first hand while playing here. There is no way to prove someone is hacking but you know they are. Hopefully they will have a anti cheat system established soon. But no system is perfect.
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dakyth
TWL Member
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| 11-17-2009 07:09 PM / profile
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i just like to put my 2 cents about the ramped cheatting in this game. first i don't think admin should have to moniter every game in twl aa3. i think there should be a thread of suspected cheeting that the admin could use to decide which teams should be moniterd more closely. like if they have 3 or more compaints about a team should warent a twl admin sitting is on a few of that teams next matiches without saying which team they are looking at. by no means will this solve the problem but i think it will make the peeps feel better about everything. and it should be left up to the admis on which types of actions to take. and post in a seprate form saying we have looked at these teams and this is the actions we have decided on. second for all those people cheeting where is your intagety this is americas army and nobody should be cheeting it is dishonable and you should be ashemed of yourselvs. thats all
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L.D.50
TeamWarfare Vet
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| 01-24-2010 10:58 PM / profile
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I was waiting a little to respond and see what came up in the future about the AC client. Just wondering if this is still underway or no? Some of the "actions" that are going on within this game competition wise is getting really really out of hand and driving people away from the league/ladders.
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Chris8812
TeamWarfare Vet
TWL Retired Staff
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| 01-24-2010 11:13 PM / profile
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Unforutanatly there is no AC client and i do see where you are coming from as it is true i have seen it in matches i have played but even when people know someone is hacking or says they are there is nothing that can be done as we have no way to prove how true that really is and the downside to that is that people can get away with it and they keep doing it over and over again. but due to the serious lack of AC for AA3. the TWL AC Team try there best but the problem is not the AC Team yet it is simply just a fact there is no way to prove people have programs hooked to there AA3Game.exe or cheat programs running in the background or edited .DLL's.
Post edited by Chris8812 at 1/24/2010 11:27:53 PM
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XShades
TWL Member
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| 02-11-2010 07:37 PM / profile
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Lets be serious here.
PB isn't catching anyone with paid for hacks. TWL CVAR's are very basic checks to make sure you have not changed some standard settings to your favor.
There is absolutely nothing stopping some idiots using hacks in AA3 for TWL.
The good news is very few teams keep obvious hackers around. To many good legit players that do not want to be associated with idiot hackers. Unfortunately some teams are run by hackers and these teams are so blatant that its hilarious playing them. You find yourself just letting go of the mouse and saying whats the point?
We have decided to just not challenge teams that are blatant about their hacking. Luckily that's just one team so we still get plenty of games. 
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ciph3r
TeamWarfare Vet
TWL Retired Staff
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| 02-12-2010 04:44 AM / profile
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TWL AC script are really all there is at this point.
Granted PB does not quite yet work well in AA3, a cvar is a cvar.
Until more cheats are submitted and more cvars can be written (which chris is right, most people wont pay money to get a hack and submit it) its all your going to get.
Keep in mind one major issue with PB right now (in AA2 and AA3) is the inability to run pb_sv_bindsrch commands on players (this actually checks what keys are binded versus a console variable). Unfortunately PB will not be updated to do this for AA2 or AA3 (its an UE issue), but cvarvals are the way to go. On the exact same note, that's only what is built into the game and until AC staff have more to look for there's really nothing that can be done.
Give it time, its a baby.
Post edited by ciph3r at 2/12/2010 4:45:04 AM
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