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rabbiz
TWL Member
06-21-2012 12:02 AM / profile

I'm not taking anything away from LC for their win, a win is a win and good job guys. You played good. This is more of a general problem I have with this shoutcasting situation.

I heard from numerous people after the fact that AT THE MOST there was a 5 second delay, AGAIN. We had to kick the shoutcaster from our last match with Iconic for the very same reason. Did not expect it to happen again. When have we had enough of this bs? I heard from folks that described the shoutcaster talking about our in-game chat discussing our next round strats before we even played the next rounds. "Go A hard next round". Guess what, with a 5 second delay, the whole world now knows that.

tCC WILL NOT accept another shoutcast from 11th hour. At best, they are unprofessional and uncoordinated. Either sign up a real shoutcasting organization or stop shoutcasting all together. I've been playing in shoutcasted matches for years and years now and have NEVER experienced such a horrible shoutcasting organization such as this.



diskyzz
TWL Member
06-21-2012 12:07 AM / profile

Originally posted by: rabbiz
I'm not taking anything away from LC for their win, a win is a win and good job guys. You played good. This is more of a general problem I have with this shoutcasting situation.

I heard from numerous people after the fact that AT THE MOST there was a 5 second delay, AGAIN. We had to kick the shoutcaster from our last match with Iconic for the very same reason. Did not expect it to happen again. When have we had enough of this bs? I heard from folks that described the shoutcaster talking about our in-game chat discussing our next round strats before we even played the next rounds. "Go A hard next round". Guess what, with a 5 second delay, the whole world now knows that.

tCC WILL NOT accept another shoutcast from 11th hour. At best, they are unprofessional and uncoordinated. Either sign up a real shoutcasting organization or stop shoutcasting all together. I've been playing in shoutcasted matches for years and years now and have NEVER experienced such a horrible shoutcasting organization such as this.



^^ agreed my friend
rabbiz
TWL Member
06-21-2012 12:08 AM / profile

Again, this is not directed towards LC. They just happen to be who we played when the shoutcasting shit storm happened again. Great games guys.
STRE3TZ
Competition Manager
NA Game Operations
Call of Duty Series

06-21-2012 12:16 AM / profile

Originally posted by: rabbiz
I'm not taking anything away from LC for their win, a win is a win and good job guys. You played good. This is more of a general problem I have with this shoutcasting situation.

I heard from numerous people after the fact that AT THE MOST there was a 5 second delay, AGAIN. We had to kick the shoutcaster from our last match with Iconic for the very same reason. Did not expect it to happen again. When have we had enough of this bs? I heard from folks that described the shoutcaster talking about our in-game chat discussing our next round strats before we even played the next rounds. "Go A hard next round". Guess what, with a 5 second delay, the whole world now knows that.

tCC WILL NOT accept another shoutcast from 11th hour. At best, they are unprofessional and uncoordinated. Either sign up a real shoutcasting organization or stop shoutcasting all together. I've been playing in shoutcasted matches for years and years now and have NEVER experienced such a horrible shoutcasting organization such as this.





Will look into this and get back to everyone on this. I am locking this for now so that there is not a shit show again and will unlock it once I have an answer for everyone.
STRE3TZ
Competition Manager
NA Game Operations
Call of Duty Series

06-21-2012 11:50 PM / profile

After speaking with the shoutcasting team, there was an hick up on their end with the delay. When the match first started there was a delay. They did not realize until the end of the match that at some point throughout the match, the delay was no more...

I have asked them from now on to please do a full test on the delay before the match.

They assure me that they know what the problem is and will be doing a test run before this next weeks map.

diskyzz
TWL Member
06-22-2012 12:13 AM / profile

Originally posted by: STRE3TZ
After speaking with the shoutcasting team, there was an hick up on their end with the delay. When the match first started there was a delay. They did not realize until the end of the match that at some point throughout the match, the delay was no more...

I have asked them from now on to please do a full test on the delay before the match.

They assure me that they know what the problem is and will be doing a test run before this next weeks map.



they have assured all of us many of times. it doesn't change that fact that still nothing has changed.
STRE3TZ
Competition Manager
NA Game Operations
Call of Duty Series

06-22-2012 12:48 AM / profile

Originally posted by: diskyzz
Originally posted by: STRE3TZ
After speaking with the shoutcasting team, there was an hick up on their end with the delay. When the match first started there was a delay. They did not realize until the end of the match that at some point throughout the match, the delay was no more...

I have asked them from now on to please do a full test on the delay before the match.

They assure me that they know what the problem is and will be doing a test run before this next weeks map.



they have assured all of us many of times. it doesn't change that fact that still nothing has changed.


I blame myself partially for not staying after them. I will do my best to stay after them on this and will now allow a cast without a delay of at least 60 seconds. I will also make sure that they do take the time during the week before the match to run a test match/scrim to ensure that the delay in fact works.

I am hoping to make this cast work. I understand the frustration that has come with it and don't blame people for getting upset. I believe that the shoutcasting is a good way to keep the community together and keep this game and other COD games going. Please bare with them and myself as we try to make this work. Thx
Noisez
Lead Shout Caster
TWL Member
06-22-2012 02:26 AM / profile

This weeks match will be shoutcasted right? Riiiiight?
Redrum1018
TWL Member
06-22-2012 05:13 AM / profile

Originally posted by: STRE3TZ
Originally posted by: diskyzz
Originally posted by: STRE3TZ
After speaking with the shoutcasting team, there was an hick up on their end with the delay. When the match first started there was a delay. They did not realize until the end of the match that at some point throughout the match, the delay was no more...

I have asked them from now on to please do a full test on the delay before the match.

They assure me that they know what the problem is and will be doing a test run before this next weeks map.



they have assured all of us many of times. it doesn't change that fact that still nothing has changed.


I blame myself partially for not staying after them. I will do my best to stay after them on this and will now allow a cast without a delay of at least 60 seconds. I will also make sure that they do take the time during the week before the match to run a test match/scrim to ensure that the delay in fact works.

I am hoping to make this cast work. I understand the frustration that has come with it and don't blame people for getting upset. I believe that the shoutcasting is a good way to keep the community together and keep this game and other COD games going. Please bare with them and myself as we try to make this work. Thx


I appreciate your efforts Streetz. I know you're trying your best and this isn't your fault. I hope they get it together because being casted is fun for the teams involved. Hopefully , if there is another season, it can work out.
theanswer.
TWL Member
06-22-2012 06:46 AM / profile

Originally posted by: STRE3TZ

I blame myself partially for not staying after them. I will do my best to stay after them on this and will now allow a cast without a delay of at least 60 seconds. I will also make sure that they do take the time during the week before the match to run a test match/scrim to ensure that the delay in fact works.

I am hoping to make this cast work. I understand the frustration that has come with it and don't blame people for getting upset. I believe that the shoutcasting is a good way to keep the community together and keep this game and other COD games going. Please bare with them and myself as we try to make this work. Thx




Streaming delay works now. I tested it with 60, 90 and 120 seconds, works perfectly fine. For those of you curious, the prolem was the XSplit's delay system just would not work at all with java 64 bit (which is installed with the installation of Xsplit). I went around the Xsplit forums and they have no idea why 64 bit would not work. So I switched to the 32 bit version of java and it works perfectly fine. Sorry for all the issues created. The existence of this issues was completely my personal fault and not of any of the casters.

Also just fyi, even with the delay, it would be a smart decission not to talk about strats or other players "hacking" during the match in the team chat because it will eventually appear on the stream and somebody will look like a fool.
diskyzz
TWL Member
06-22-2012 08:00 PM / profile

Originally posted by: risen.theanswer

Also just fyi, even with the delay, it would be a smart decission not to talk about strats or other players "hacking" during the match in the team chat because it will eventually appear on the stream and somebody will look like a fool.

who cares if strats are discussed in team chat. you should be smart enough not to say what people are typing during a stream. obviously people are going to be able to see the strat when they watch the cast, you are just the idiot who decided to read what the team is talking about instead of just being a caster and talking about the actual game play. dont try and pass the blame onto anyone but yourself.

As far as people calling others cheaters in chat. that shit is funny as hell.
theanswer.
TWL Member
06-22-2012 08:46 PM / profile

Originally posted by: diskyzz

who cares if strats are discussed in team chat. you should be smart enough not to say what people are typing during a stream. obviously people are going to be able to see the strat when they watch the cast, you are just the idiot who decided to read what the team is talking about instead of just being a caster and talking about the actual game play. dont try and pass the blame onto anyone but yourself.

As far as people calling others cheaters in chat. that shit is funny as hell.


As you probably were able to tell, I specifically said that I'm the only one to blame, so "dont try and pass the blame onto anyone but yourself." does not really make sense after what I said, but that's ok you are free to make a fool out of yourself for as much as I care.

If you say your strat in team chat, we will talk about it, because its really funny how stupid you have to be to write that in chat, especially when you know you're being casted (and it will appear on the stream) and especially when you are probably in ts/vent/mumble and you could say your strat in voip. It would not make any difference if we talked about it since it was already on the screen, if any of the 2 teams would have a 6th player on the stream, even if we would not have talked about it, that player would have still seen the chat... Your point is invalid... I can guarantee you that if any caster will see something stupid going on, they will point it out. Making fun of stupid shit people do its part of entertaining an audience.

I still amazes me how people that have no logic whatsoever can still roam the streets free.

Dont worry, I still love you , you can have a cookie
Post edited by risen.theanswer at 6/22/2012 8:51:05 PM

LEAVE NOISE ALONE
#TeamNoise \_

Originally posted by: strizzy

LOL biggest troll ever this guy right here! and worse player NA/EU
Redrum1018
TWL Member
06-22-2012 09:34 PM / profile

Originally posted by: risen.theanswer
Originally posted by: diskyzz

who cares if strats are discussed in team chat. you should be smart enough not to say what people are typing during a stream. obviously people are going to be able to see the strat when they watch the cast, you are just the idiot who decided to read what the team is talking about instead of just being a caster and talking about the actual game play. dont try and pass the blame onto anyone but yourself.

As far as people calling others cheaters in chat. that shit is funny as hell.


As you probably were able to tell, I specifically said that I'm the only one to blame, so "dont try and pass the blame onto anyone but yourself." does not really make sense after what I said, but that's ok you are free to make a fool out of yourself for as much as I care.

If you say your strat in team chat, we will talk about it, because its really funny how stupid you have to be to write that in chat, especially when you know you're being casted (and it will appear on the stream) and especially when you are probably in ts/vent/mumble and you could say your strat in voip. It would not make any difference if we talked about it since it was already on the screen, if any of the 2 teams would have a 6th player on the stream, even if we would not have talked about it, that player would have still seen the chat... Your point is invalid... I can guarantee you that if any caster will see something stupid going on, they will point it out. Making fun of stupid shit people do its part of entertaining an audience.

I still amazes me how people that have no logic whatsoever can still roam the streets free.

Dont worry, I still love you , you can have a cookie



Have you ever played in a match, or scrim before? There's a reason it's TEAM chat. People like to hear if there are 2/3 still alive and the dead players work on fixing an issue WITHOUT being loud in voice. I'm starting to realize why the casts are a failure..
Post edited by Redrum1018 at 6/22/2012 9:37:22 PM
diskyzz
TWL Member
06-22-2012 09:38 PM / profile

Originally posted by: Redrum1018
Originally posted by: risen.theanswer
Originally posted by: diskyzz

who cares if strats are discussed in team chat. you should be smart enough not to say what people are typing during a stream. obviously people are going to be able to see the strat when they watch the cast, you are just the idiot who decided to read what the team is talking about instead of just being a caster and talking about the actual game play. dont try and pass the blame onto anyone but yourself.

As far as people calling others cheaters in chat. that shit is funny as hell.


As you probably were able to tell, I specifically said that I'm the only one to blame, so "dont try and pass the blame onto anyone but yourself." does not really make sense after what I said, but that's ok you are free to make a fool out of yourself for as much as I care.

If you say your strat in team chat, we will talk about it, because its really funny how stupid you have to be to write that in chat, especially when you know you're being casted (and it will appear on the stream) and especially when you are probably in ts/vent/mumble and you could say your strat in voip. It would not make any difference if we talked about it since it was already on the screen, if any of the 2 teams would have a 6th player on the stream, even if we would not have talked about it, that player would have still seen the chat... Your point is invalid... I can guarantee you that if any caster will see something stupid going on, they will point it out. Making fun of stupid shit people do its part of entertaining an audience.

I still amazes me how people that have no logic whatsoever can still roam the streets free.

Dont worry, I still love you , you can have a cookie



Have you ever played in a match, or scrim before? There's a reason it's TEAM chat. People like to hear if there are 2/3 still alive and the dead players work on fixing an issue WITHOUT being loud in voice. I'm starting to realize why the casts are a failure..
red its cool, that is why he plays for risen.
theanswer.
TWL Member
06-22-2012 10:38 PM / profile

Originally posted by: Redrum1018

Have you ever played in a match, or scrim before? There's a reason it's TEAM chat. People like to hear if there are 2/3 still alive and the dead players work on fixing an issue WITHOUT being loud in voice. I'm starting to realize why the casts are a failure..


No, I have never played a match. You do realize that since you typed in teamchat, everybody will see it right? my point was the caster talking about the strat did not make any difference in the situation since it was already on the screen. That was all that I was trying to say, dont blame the caster for talking about it, it was already on the screen. You guys just pick what you want of what I say. As Ive said before "I still amazes me how people that have no logic whatsoever can still roam the streets free."

You can have a cookie as well red...


Edit: Anyways, im done arguing with you guys, problem's been fixed, the teams that still need to solve their issues will not be casted anymore.
Post edited by risen.theanswer at 6/22/2012 10:42:00 PM

LEAVE NOISE ALONE
#TeamNoise \_

Originally posted by: strizzy

LOL biggest troll ever this guy right here! and worse player NA/EU
diskyzz
TWL Member
06-22-2012 11:16 PM / profile

Originally posted by: risen.theanswer
Originally posted by: Redrum1018

Have you ever played in a match, or scrim before? There's a reason it's TEAM chat. People like to hear if there are 2/3 still alive and the dead players work on fixing an issue WITHOUT being loud in voice. I'm starting to realize why the casts are a failure..


No, I have never played a match. You do realize that since you typed in teamchat, everybody will see it right? my point was the caster talking about the strat did not make any difference in the situation since it was already on the screen. That was all that I was trying to say, dont blame the caster for talking about it, it was already on the screen. You guys just pick what you want of what I say. As Ive said before "I still amazes me how people that have no logic whatsoever can still roam the streets free."

You can have a cookie as well red...


Edit: Anyways, im done arguing with you guys, problem's been fixed, the teams that still need to solve their issues will not be casted anymore.


what you fail to comprehend is that he said it not even taking into account what he was about to say and when he was saying until someone brought it up to him. it would be one thing if he stated at the beginning of the next round that "tcc spoke about rushing objective b in team chat during the previous round so let's see if they can pull off the rush." but of course we all know what really took place. lets not forget the fact that there was no delay to begin with, and even with his supposed 60 second delay he fucked up.


edit: your cookie tastes like shit, you can have it back.
Post edited by diskyzz at 6/22/2012 11:21:24 PM
theanswer.
TWL Member
06-22-2012 11:42 PM / profile



you obviously didnt understand shit from my last post... Im wasting my time with you...
anyways, back to what was actually important, delay's fixed, been tested with different second delays and it works. Teams dont want to be casted will not be casted.
Post edited by risen.theanswer at 6/22/2012 11:43:12 PM

LEAVE NOISE ALONE
#TeamNoise \_

Originally posted by: strizzy

LOL biggest troll ever this guy right here! and worse player NA/EU
Redrum1018
TWL Member
06-23-2012 12:27 AM / profile

Originally posted by: risen.theanswer


you obviously didnt understand shit from my last post... Im wasting my time with you...
anyways, back to what was actually important, delay's fixed, been tested with different second delays and it works. Teams dont want to be casted will not be casted.


Which should be none. I think xn is the only team in the top 5 who would want to be casted at this point. Lan dodgers, tCC, Lc, and Iconic all said no, so looks like week 8 will be the finale of 11th hour, if you can get anyone in the lower half to agree.
Captain Fappin'
TWL Member
06-23-2012 12:41 AM / profile

alright. look guys. our shoutcasters are terrible. it's because they're amateurs. kind of like how all of you guys played like amateurs last night. they're capable of doing things right, and you're capable of rolling any team i've ever been on. but it really seems to me that you're just complaining about the loss that you shouldn't have had. and fyi, tcc is capable of winning a game even if there isn't a delay.

I'll end this with something my redneck-ass roommates father said to me at lunch today:

if you're going to deep-sea fish with live bait in your pocket, then you have no right to complain if you get bit.
diskyzz
TWL Member
06-23-2012 01:06 AM / profile

Originally posted by: Negrodamus
alright. look guys. our shoutcasters are terrible. it's because they're amateurs. kind of like how all of you guys played like amateurs last night. they're capable of doing things right, and you're capable of rolling any team i've ever been on. but it really seems to me that you're just complaining about the loss that you shouldn't have had. and fyi, tcc is capable of winning a game even if there isn't a delay.

I'll end this with something my redneck-ass roommates father said to me at lunch today:

if you're going to deep-sea fish with live bait in your pocket, then you have no right to complain if you get bit.

hey smart guy im on Lc. I just happened to be friends with tcc.
Redrum1018
TWL Member
06-23-2012 01:47 AM / profile

Win/loss doesn't matter. Neither team used the stream to watch each other. I never once blamed the loss on it either.
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