Originally posted by: DeadZombie
I would of liked to seen something come out that was like CoD:WAW (World at War). It didn't really get the recognition it should of gotten. I never got the feeling from that game that made me feel like it was ported, or that you were running around in 2 feet of shit. but with so damn many Cod's coming out, none really get the support they should. and like pimp said, you gotta wait forever for an update, and then them silly ass consoles get everything first. guess that what we get when you have developers who are to stupid, or lazy to code for a PC only version, and have hit-boxes that make sense.

Originally posted by: 3pi
WaW was indeed great and better than cod4 imo because of rifle only, nothing is better than rifle only comp.

BO2; well if it feels like BO and has dedicated servers it will be alright, graphics I couldn't care less about. WaW and BO both feel so much better to play then MW2/3; those games feel so cheap.

Originally posted by: Steam News
We really like grilling developers.* Hard Questions embodies our commitment to addressing the creative, technical, or customer service decisions made by developers that PC gamers care about.

*PC Gamer's legal representation would like to remind you that our regret for the lives lost by our prototype Interview Barbeque is not an admission of guilt.

I spent a day with Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 last week. After Treyarch's presentation, I borrowed a breaching charge from the studio's kitchen (the place is lousy with C4) to blast open the office door of its studio head, Mark Lamia. Entering in slow-mo with Inquiry Guns akimbo, I complimented Mark on the presidential red rotary telephone on his desk. Through a fog of drywall dust and poisonous florescent lightblub particulate, my interrogation began.

PCG: Will Black Ops 2 have dedicated servers on PC?

Mark Lamia, Studio Head, Treyarch: We had it with Black Ops, so the architecture exists. But we haven't yet announced exactly what that setup is going to be with Black Ops 2. The goal, for us, really, is to... We like the flexibility, just philosophically, of the dedicated server. We also like our game to be played the way we spent the last couple of years making it, and try to find that happy medium between the two. There's a meta-game that we've created here in terms of allowing people to rank up with the experience points and everything. Trying to make sure that people can enjoy that meta-game is important to us too. That's where we try to strike that balance on Black Ops as much as possible.



Is it an issue related to anti-cheat? I think that was something a lot of people—

ML: Absolutely it is. It's absolutely related. It's one of the considerations. Once you let those server files out, there's a problem. That was actually one of the primary reasons why you could rent a server... I can tell you that that wasn't a business decision on our part. That's not our business. But it's an important security consideration.

One of the things I know that the team has been focused on for the PC is, in particular, anti-cheat mechanisms. We know it's a huge issue in PC gaming, for online gaming. We've been working on proprietary schemes, we're not just relying on the commercial schemes that... They do a good job and clearly that's their job, to do that stuff. But we have a lot of experience, especially after Black Ops, seeing what people were doing to the game, and we want to make sure... Look—you want to do that stuff in a custom, private game, that's your business, but if you're playing out there in the world, in the community, we are going to try to make it fun for as many people as possible. So we have some proprietary schemes the team has been working on. I think that will be unique to this title, since it's not off-the-shelf software. We're working on that.



Don't you think Black Ops 2 would benefit from a beta?

ML: The problem with a beta, in particular on our time frame, it's just not practical. We're coming out this year, we're not taking four years to make this game or three years to make this game. You could actually take a lot of time on a beta. Most consumers don't have a technical problem. We have done betas in the past. Sometimes you get the information you need and actually sometimes you don't. It just depends. But there's nothing like having the reach of a game like Call of Duty to eventually get to every single place.

What about Call of Duty Elite? It’s still strange to me that your web-based platform doesn’t function with the PC version of Modern Warfare 3.

ML: Great question. It's one that Activision has to answer for us. Right now it's not a technical limitation on our engines. But there is... We haven't announced exactly what we're doing with Elite for the next game. It's more of an Elite question that's going to be answered for people later. But our game does a real good job... Did you play Black Ops?

Yeah.

ML: So there's a ton of stats that we have already built into our engine. Our engine's really well-integrated with all that stuff. We're already doing quite a bit of that. It's going to be really... It takes advantage of Elite pretty nicely.

Will Black Ops 2 have LAN play? That doesn't seem like a troublesome thing to implement.

ML: Yeah, so we'll talk about, like, what network architectures and stuff we're going to give you a little bit later. But I think it's fair to say that we're paying attention to the eSports scene, and the kinds of issues that you're talking about... Forget the specific hardware, but the kinds of issues that you're talking about are ones that we are paying attention to and are important to us.

How would you expect to support eSports on PC without dedicated servers?

ML: Um... Well, I haven't told you whether we are or we aren't having them, so... You mean if there were no dedicated servers? Well, we were able to do that with... I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, but we were able to do that with... We had Black Ops on the PS3 on the MLG, that was a Pro Circuit. What you're able to do is create... In your custom game configuration, you allow people to create the customizations that they need. You don't need a dedicated server to give people the variables they need to create a custom game.

Thanks for your time, Mark.

Check back later this week for Hard Questions about mods and more from our interview with Treyarch on the PC version of Call of Duty: Black ops 2.

Originally posted by: STRE3TZ
This interview looks promising.....

One of my teammates dug this up.

Originally posted by: Steam News
We really like grilling developers.* Hard Questions embodies our commitment to addressing the creative, technical, or customer service decisions made by developers that PC gamers care about.

*PC Gamer's legal representation would like to remind you that our regret for the lives lost by our prototype Interview Barbeque is not an admission of guilt.

I spent a day with Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 last week. After Treyarch's presentation, I borrowed a breaching charge from the studio's kitchen (the place is lousy with C4) to blast open the office door of its studio head, Mark Lamia. Entering in slow-mo with Inquiry Guns akimbo, I complimented Mark on the presidential red rotary telephone on his desk. Through a fog of drywall dust and poisonous florescent lightblub particulate, my interrogation began.

PCG: Will Black Ops 2 have dedicated servers on PC?

Mark Lamia, Studio Head, Treyarch: We had it with Black Ops, so the architecture exists. But we haven't yet announced exactly what that setup is going to be with Black Ops 2. The goal, for us, really, is to... We like the flexibility, just philosophically, of the dedicated server. We also like our game to be played the way we spent the last couple of years making it, and try to find that happy medium between the two. There's a meta-game that we've created here in terms of allowing people to rank up with the experience points and everything. Trying to make sure that people can enjoy that meta-game is important to us too. That's where we try to strike that balance on Black Ops as much as possible.



Is it an issue related to anti-cheat? I think that was something a lot of people—

ML: Absolutely it is. It's absolutely related. It's one of the considerations. Once you let those server files out, there's a problem. That was actually one of the primary reasons why you could rent a server... I can tell you that that wasn't a business decision on our part. That's not our business. But it's an important security consideration.

One of the things I know that the team has been focused on for the PC is, in particular, anti-cheat mechanisms. We know it's a huge issue in PC gaming, for online gaming. We've been working on proprietary schemes, we're not just relying on the commercial schemes that... They do a good job and clearly that's their job, to do that stuff. But we have a lot of experience, especially after Black Ops, seeing what people were doing to the game, and we want to make sure... Look—you want to do that stuff in a custom, private game, that's your business, but if you're playing out there in the world, in the community, we are going to try to make it fun for as many people as possible. So we have some proprietary schemes the team has been working on. I think that will be unique to this title, since it's not off-the-shelf software. We're working on that.



Don't you think Black Ops 2 would benefit from a beta?

ML: The problem with a beta, in particular on our time frame, it's just not practical. We're coming out this year, we're not taking four years to make this game or three years to make this game. You could actually take a lot of time on a beta. Most consumers don't have a technical problem. We have done betas in the past. Sometimes you get the information you need and actually sometimes you don't. It just depends. But there's nothing like having the reach of a game like Call of Duty to eventually get to every single place.

What about Call of Duty Elite? It’s still strange to me that your web-based platform doesn’t function with the PC version of Modern Warfare 3.

ML: Great question. It's one that Activision has to answer for us. Right now it's not a technical limitation on our engines. But there is... We haven't announced exactly what we're doing with Elite for the next game. It's more of an Elite question that's going to be answered for people later. But our game does a real good job... Did you play Black Ops?

Yeah.

ML: So there's a ton of stats that we have already built into our engine. Our engine's really well-integrated with all that stuff. We're already doing quite a bit of that. It's going to be really... It takes advantage of Elite pretty nicely.

Will Black Ops 2 have LAN play? That doesn't seem like a troublesome thing to implement.

ML: Yeah, so we'll talk about, like, what network architectures and stuff we're going to give you a little bit later. But I think it's fair to say that we're paying attention to the eSports scene, and the kinds of issues that you're talking about... Forget the specific hardware, but the kinds of issues that you're talking about are ones that we are paying attention to and are important to us.

How would you expect to support eSports on PC without dedicated servers?

ML: Um... Well, I haven't told you whether we are or we aren't having them, so... You mean if there were no dedicated servers? Well, we were able to do that with... I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, but we were able to do that with... We had Black Ops on the PS3 on the MLG, that was a Pro Circuit. What you're able to do is create... In your custom game configuration, you allow people to create the customizations that they need. You don't need a dedicated server to give people the variables they need to create a custom game.

Thanks for your time, Mark.

Check back later this week for Hard Questions about mods and more from our interview with Treyarch on the PC version of Call of Duty: Black ops 2.

Originally posted by: Pimpsmack

Originally posted by: STRE3TZ
This interview looks promising.....

One of my teammates dug this up.

Originally posted by: Steam News
We really like grilling developers.* Hard Questions embodies our commitment to addressing the creative, technical, or customer service decisions made by developers that PC gamers care about.

*PC Gamer's legal representation would like to remind you that our regret for the lives lost by our prototype Interview Barbeque is not an admission of guilt.

I spent a day with Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 last week. After Treyarch's presentation, I borrowed a breaching charge from the studio's kitchen (the place is lousy with C4) to blast open the office door of its studio head, Mark Lamia. Entering in slow-mo with Inquiry Guns akimbo, I complimented Mark on the presidential red rotary telephone on his desk. Through a fog of drywall dust and poisonous florescent lightblub particulate, my interrogation began.

PCG: Will Black Ops 2 have dedicated servers on PC?

Mark Lamia, Studio Head, Treyarch: We had it with Black Ops, so the architecture exists. But we haven't yet announced exactly what that setup is going to be with Black Ops 2. The goal, for us, really, is to... We like the flexibility, just philosophically, of the dedicated server. We also like our game to be played the way we spent the last couple of years making it, and try to find that happy medium between the two. There's a meta-game that we've created here in terms of allowing people to rank up with the experience points and everything. Trying to make sure that people can enjoy that meta-game is important to us too. That's where we try to strike that balance on Black Ops as much as possible.



Is it an issue related to anti-cheat? I think that was something a lot of people—

ML: Absolutely it is. It's absolutely related. It's one of the considerations. Once you let those server files out, there's a problem. That was actually one of the primary reasons why you could rent a server... I can tell you that that wasn't a business decision on our part. That's not our business. But it's an important security consideration.

One of the things I know that the team has been focused on for the PC is, in particular, anti-cheat mechanisms. We know it's a huge issue in PC gaming, for online gaming. We've been working on proprietary schemes, we're not just relying on the commercial schemes that... They do a good job and clearly that's their job, to do that stuff. But we have a lot of experience, especially after Black Ops, seeing what people were doing to the game, and we want to make sure... Look—you want to do that stuff in a custom, private game, that's your business, but if you're playing out there in the world, in the community, we are going to try to make it fun for as many people as possible. So we have some proprietary schemes the team has been working on. I think that will be unique to this title, since it's not off-the-shelf software. We're working on that.



Don't you think Black Ops 2 would benefit from a beta?

ML: The problem with a beta, in particular on our time frame, it's just not practical. We're coming out this year, we're not taking four years to make this game or three years to make this game. You could actually take a lot of time on a beta. Most consumers don't have a technical problem. We have done betas in the past. Sometimes you get the information you need and actually sometimes you don't. It just depends. But there's nothing like having the reach of a game like Call of Duty to eventually get to every single place.

What about Call of Duty Elite? It’s still strange to me that your web-based platform doesn’t function with the PC version of Modern Warfare 3.

ML: Great question. It's one that Activision has to answer for us. Right now it's not a technical limitation on our engines. But there is... We haven't announced exactly what we're doing with Elite for the next game. It's more of an Elite question that's going to be answered for people later. But our game does a real good job... Did you play Black Ops?

Yeah.

ML: So there's a ton of stats that we have already built into our engine. Our engine's really well-integrated with all that stuff. We're already doing quite a bit of that. It's going to be really... It takes advantage of Elite pretty nicely.

Will Black Ops 2 have LAN play? That doesn't seem like a troublesome thing to implement.

ML: Yeah, so we'll talk about, like, what network architectures and stuff we're going to give you a little bit later. But I think it's fair to say that we're paying attention to the eSports scene, and the kinds of issues that you're talking about... Forget the specific hardware, but the kinds of issues that you're talking about are ones that we are paying attention to and are important to us.

How would you expect to support eSports on PC without dedicated servers?

ML: Um... Well, I haven't told you whether we are or we aren't having them, so... You mean if there were no dedicated servers? Well, we were able to do that with... I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, but we were able to do that with... We had Black Ops on the PS3 on the MLG, that was a Pro Circuit. What you're able to do is create... In your custom game configuration, you allow people to create the customizations that they need. You don't need a dedicated server to give people the variables they need to create a custom game.

Thanks for your time, Mark.

Check back later this week for Hard Questions about mods and more from our interview with Treyarch on the PC version of Call of Duty: Black ops 2.

Looks promising? ARE YOU FUCKING ILLITERATE?

The way i read this and then comprehend is the way i treat many people that are in a position of considerable power.
Its all bullshit, unless there is DIRECT and for certain yes or no answers.

The architecture is still there part is speaking in the past tense as if this isn't a serious consideration. This response is a lazy way of saying "well we can, but.." and its alittle late in the year to be undecided about this so it will come down to what IW did im sure. Also, they haven't announced their plan because they are trying to do the same bullshit as IW and keep that news under raps until all of us fuckers pre order (give them our money) and then find out dedi's are unranked. WHich btw i believe this is what this mother fucker is saying by "trying to accommodate both sides". There are no fucking sides, just pc and console. We do not play with each other or against each other so give us want we want and give the console people their shit.

Anticheat is going to not by software as VAC will be the AC of choice. The only AC they will implement is on the config and server files instead of going through all the commands themselves they will black listed everything with some type of hash file, encryption, or check-sum. Nothing regarding the rapid, and extensive use of texture file alterations or the simple aimbot/walls will mostly not be addressed unless their is direct collaboration with VAC or the release of VAC 2.0 or 3.0 whatever the hell that pos ac is supposed to be released.


This shit is maddening and will not buy into it like i did in MW3 to then find out last minute ded's are unranked to prevent cheating as if that is the biggest cheat threat. Fuck this. Prove me wrong, please.

Originally posted by: Tevlin.
I love how I'm brought up in this. Pimp I've never played you in a match kid, and when the time comes (if ever) I will beat you because you're still old news brah. You are a different kind of Troll for sure...pfff

But I'm not looking forward to this game at all. There might be a glimpse of hope for another good year of MP but after this game say goodbye to PC gaming (at least for CoD). Never been a fan of futuristic anything, its all too corny.

Originally posted by: STRE3TZ
Ya I will def post any new news I find

Originally posted by: k-a
Does anyone even play WaW still?