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07-12-2012 08:09 AM / profile

Anyone tracking what's going on?

Russia is moving warships (filled with marines and tanks) off the coast of Tartus and giving the US the finger (Russia has continued to provide arms to Assad);

The US is moving more naval ships to the Persian gulf and (kind of) giving Russia the finger;

So.

What's your take on all this?

-EB- Bluedoctor
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07-12-2012 08:39 AM / profile

An article in FP yesterday argued that Russia is trying protect its naval base. Whatever happens, they want to protect the only naval base they have outside Russian waters.

Edit: grammar
Post edited by -EB- Bluedoctor at 7/12/2012 8:41:41 AM
~~Snake~~
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07-12-2012 08:43 AM / profile

Don't worry. Our chief fool in office is one hell of a negotiator!


On a serious note now. I have some concerns because collateral damage or some retard Muslims attacking the Russians and blaming the US could escalate things. We just need to have more ships, with bigger guns and more troops.
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07-12-2012 08:45 AM / profile

Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Don't worry. Our chief fool in office

Careful.
~~Snake~~
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07-12-2012 08:46 AM / profile

Originally posted by: Pillbug
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Don't worry. Our chief fool in office

Careful.
What are you talking about Pill?
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07-12-2012 09:25 AM / profile

What he's saying is that the site is run by small brained liberal douchebags that don't like hearing the truth about the great American social experiment.
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07-12-2012 09:56 AM / profile

It's all about the pipelines.

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07-12-2012 10:11 AM / profile

Originally posted by: Smiling Canadian
What he's saying is that the site is run by small brained liberal douchebags that don't like hearing the truth about the great American social experiment failure.


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07-12-2012 10:49 AM / profile

Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
On a serious note now. I have some concerns because collateral damage or some retard Muslims attacking the Russians and blaming the US could escalate things. We just need to have more ships, with bigger guns and more troops.


FYI: Jihadists generally dont fuck with the Russians.. the Russians are nowhere near as nice as we are when it comes to dealing with them.

It is very unlikely that the Russians would be fooled either.

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07-12-2012 11:03 AM / profile

Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
On a serious note now. I have some concerns because collateral damage or some retard Muslims attacking the Russians and blaming the US could escalate things. We just need to have more ships, with bigger guns and more troops.


FYI: Jihadists generally dont fuck with the Russians.. the Russians are nowhere near as nice as we are when it comes to dealing with them.

It is very unlikely that the Russians would be fooled either.


Would they need to be fooled or just given a reason?
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07-12-2012 11:07 AM / profile

Originally posted by: {|}snake{|}
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
On a serious note now. I have some concerns because collateral damage or some retard Muslims attacking the Russians and blaming the US could escalate things. We just need to have more ships, with bigger guns and more troops.


FYI: Jihadists generally dont fuck with the Russians.. the Russians are nowhere near as nice as we are when it comes to dealing with them.

It is very unlikely that the Russians would be fooled either.


Would they need to be fooled or just given a reason?


Not sure what you are asking - I am thinking you mean war with us over Syria?

Clarify please.

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07-12-2012 11:13 AM / profile

Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: {|}snake{|}
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
On a serious note now. I have some concerns because collateral damage or some retard Muslims attacking the Russians and blaming the US could escalate things. We just need to have more ships, with bigger guns and more troops.


FYI: Jihadists generally dont fuck with the Russians.. the Russians are nowhere near as nice as we are when it comes to dealing with them.

It is very unlikely that the Russians would be fooled either.


Would they need to be fooled or just given a reason?


Not sure what you are asking - I am thinking you mean war with us over Syria?

Clarify please.


I just meant if there was a bombing/attack do you think Russia would use it even though they knew it wasn't us. US. hmm USA.
Stryk
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07-12-2012 11:18 AM / profile

One of Russia's biggest (only) exports is oil. Instability in the region fueled by anti-west movements drives up the price of oil.

Syria is the only place where replacing the government likely means better relations with the west & Syria. And/or weaker relations between Syria and Iran. Syria's is Iran's proxy right next to Israel and near Saudi Arabia. Syria's government getting tossed out helps stability in the region.

Russia wants the place to remain a powder keg.
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07-12-2012 11:38 AM / profile

Originally posted by: {|}snake{|}
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: {|}snake{|}
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
On a serious note now. I have some concerns because collateral damage or some retard Muslims attacking the Russians and blaming the US could escalate things. We just need to have more ships, with bigger guns and more troops.


FYI: Jihadists generally dont fuck with the Russians.. the Russians are nowhere near as nice as we are when it comes to dealing with them.

It is very unlikely that the Russians would be fooled either.


Would they need to be fooled or just given a reason?


Not sure what you are asking - I am thinking you mean war with us over Syria?

Clarify please.


I just meant if there was a bombing/attack do you think Russia would use it even though they knew it wasn't us. US. hmm USA.


Thanks for the clarification.

No, Russia will not risk war with the US, even our weakened economic state. That would lead to a cataclysmic collapse of their economy through oil as Western Europe is one of their biggest buyers. It is in their best interest to to keep Assad afloat for geopolitical reasons in the Middle East as well as the Tartus "port in the storm" they have no where else.

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07-12-2012 02:18 PM / profile

Originally posted by: Smiling Canadian
What he's saying is that the site is run by small brained liberal douchebags that don't like hearing the truth about the great American social experiment.


Sigh.....disparaging the office of the POTUS...you know the rule.

Contrary to popular belief, most of us are not liberals.
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07-12-2012 02:46 PM / profile

Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Anyone tracking what's going on?




Yes.

Man


vs.

Menopause:

Bigguns 93
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07-12-2012 05:01 PM / profile

Originally posted by: TotalCarnage
Originally posted by: Smiling Canadian
What he's saying is that the site is run by small brained liberal douchebags that don't like hearing the truth about the great American social experiment.


Sigh.....disparaging the office of the POTUS...you know the rule.

Contrary to popular belief, most of us are not liberals.


Didn't you guys used to come down on anyone going full retard on George Bush? You allowed some "discussion", but if they went full retard, from what I recall, they found out you keep the pimp hand strong.

Correct me if I am wrong. Also I seem to remember the statement was not to slander a sitting president. You might hate the policies, hate the ideology, even hate the man, but respect the office was kind of the gist.

samUwell
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07-12-2012 07:25 PM / profile

~~Snake~~
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07-12-2012 08:32 PM / profile

Originally posted by: samUwell
You seriously gotta stop listening to commie radio. now you are sticking up for Muslims Wow, I never have seen stupid as bad as this
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samUwell
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07-12-2012 08:37 PM / profile

Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
You seriously gotta stop listening to commie radio. now you are sticking up for Muslims Wow, I never have seen stupid as bad as this
im not sticking up for muslims, i am shitting on Israel. and shitting on Israel does not mean i am sticking up for muslims.

its time to stop killing Americans for the Fascist, Zionist nation of Israel.
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07-12-2012 08:54 PM / profile

So...

Anyone think anything will come of this?

The civil war is escalating and the US is trying to position itself on the side of "democracy" which could lead to intervention that Russia doesnt want the US involved in.

We already see how the Arab Spring turned out (like Egypt) and cheered by the current administration.

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