Actual survival rate of people outside of the city - Donner party
Four girls aged three and under died; two survived. No girls between the ages of 4 and 16 died.
Four boys aged three and under died; none survived. Six boys between the ages of 4 and 16 died.
All the adult males who survived the entrapment (Breen, Eddy, Foster, Keseberg) were fathers.
All the bachelors (single males over age 21) who were trapped in the Sierra died.
The most well trained, most experienced in wilderness survival - died. They were the Indian scouts. Killed for food by people with children.
Myth that families escaping the city are a liability = myth. Show facts. Myth that people without children survive better than those with children in disaster situations = busted
Military / police will give priority to evacuating children and families. Escaping cities will be easier for people with families. They will get top priority on transportation, food, medical, housing, clothing. All actual data on disasters proves that to be the case. Provide data to bust myth, not more myth.
Actual survival rate of people outside of the city - Donner party
Four girls aged three and under died; two survived. No girls between the ages of 4 and 16 died.
Four boys aged three and under died; none survived. Six boys between the ages of 4 and 16 died.
All the adult males who survived the entrapment (Breen, Eddy, Foster, Keseberg) were fathers.
All the bachelors (single males over age 21) who were trapped in the Sierra died.
The most well trained, most experienced in wilderness survival - died. They were the Indian scouts. Killed for food by people with children.
Myth that families escaping the city are a liability = myth. Show facts. Myth that people without children survive better than those with children in disaster situations = busted
Military / police will give priority to evacuating children and families. Escaping cities will be easier for people with families. They will get top priority on transportation, food, medical, housing, clothing. All actual data on disasters proves that to be the case. Provide data to bust myth, not more myth.
I'm sure that very strained police forces [that report for duty instead of trying to save their own] will execute everything in an orderly and safe fashion just like they do in movies. The military wont secure their bases before they roll out, but what do I know?
The world reels with the turmoil of war, geological disaster, and economic collapse, while Americans continue to submerge themselves in illusions of safety and immunity. While rights are sold for security, the federal government, swollen with power, begins a systematic takeover of liberty in order to bring about a New World Order.
Americans, quarantined to militarized districts, become a population ripe for tyrannical control.
Fearmongering, terrorism, police state, martial law, war, arrest, internment, hunger, oppression, violence, resistance – these are the new terms by which Americans define their existence. Neighbor is turned against neighbor as the value of the dollar plunges to zero, food supplies are depleted, and everyone is a terror suspect. There are arrests. Disappearances. Bio attacks. Public executions of those even suspected of dissent. Even rumors of concentration camps on American soil.
This is the backdrop to an unfolding story of resistance. American militias prepare for guerilla warfare. There are mass defections from the military as true Patriots attempt to rally around the Constitution and defend liberty, preparing a national insurgency against federal forces, knowing full well this will be the last time in history the oppressed will be capable of organized resistance.
It is a time of transition, of shifting alliance, of mass awakening and mass execution. It is an impending storm, an iron-gray morning that puts into effect decades of over-comfort and complacency, and Americans wake up to an occupied homeland. It is a time of lists – black list, white list, and those still caught in the middle, those who risk physical death for their free will and those who sell their souls to maintain their idle thoughts and easy comforts. It is in this Gray State that the perpetuation of human freedom will be contested, or crushed.
Is it the near future, or is it the present? The Gray State is coming - by consent or conquest. This is battlefield USA.
How soon? Where have you been. Hell some of these sites ban anything DEEMED OFFENSIVE!! _______________________________________________________________
"If guns kill people then spoons make us fat!"
Originally posted by: Pixel so today we got a robo call like around 4:30 from our township (i now live in suburban NJ about 20 miles west of NYC) that due to a water main break they recommended only drinking boiled tap water or bottled water for now. doublechecked the website, verified it. pretty efficient i must say. but anyway.
by 5pm i was at the grocery store. already the shelves were cleared of most of the gallon and up sizes. lots of 24 and 35 packs of the smaller sizes left but still. goes to show how fast it can go. however this is a middle class area and we have probably about 5 large supermarkets in our town, i went to one of the smaller ones. i am also unsure of stock in the back as well.
but even for such a small little event, shit goes fast.
Someone gets it.
I have several years of canned goods stored up, and several months of bottles water. That being said, where I live water is a non issue. Like, totally non issue. I am surrounded by more fresh water in my region than most continents.
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ So people that don't argue on a gaming board would be the best candidates? I guess we live in different worlds Major. Because I see little if any bearing on being polite on a forum and surviving.
After almost a decade of watching you on these boards, we can all safely say that you are an asshole irl. Most likely not so brazen, because you would get your ass kicked, but you are a racist, homophobic, general all around bigoted asshole. I have no doubt at all that irl you are much more polite. But here you can let it all out.
It's ok snake. We keep you because its amusing. But like SS says, amusing isn't going to cut it in the end.
Wrong again kid rat. I have great converstions irl because PUSSIES like you actually wouldn't say a word to my face. Whose gonna kick my ass? You?
I'm polite to those that are polite back. You are a fucking douchbag who wouldn't last two minutes in a real survival situation. I would bet my life against yours anyway you cut it son. And homophobic? I don't like white trash like you or black trash. Does that make one racist? Thanks again for the laughs.
And anything I say on these boards I would say to your fucking ugly face! Rest assured about that
Snake, you are the kind of guy that us Boggy's would take out in the swamp and feed to the gators. Ironically...no one would likely miss ya kid.
Well, while you bitches are trying to get out of the city...my ass will be sailing to safer waters. My brats can fish so we will have food to eat. My boat is mostly self sufficient. The real bonus for me is I know how to fix damn near everything on it and carry parts. More so if I find my father in law because his boat is a floating supply and repair house.
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ So people that don't argue on a gaming board would be the best candidates? I guess we live in different worlds Major. Because I see little if any bearing on being polite on a forum and surviving.
After almost a decade of watching you on these boards, we can all safely say that you are an asshole irl. Most likely not so brazen, because you would get your ass kicked, but you are a racist, homophobic, general all around bigoted asshole. I have no doubt at all that irl you are much more polite. But here you can let it all out.
It's ok snake. We keep you because its amusing. But like SS says, amusing isn't going to cut it in the end.
Wrong again kid rat. I have great converstions irl because PUSSIES like you actually wouldn't say a word to my face. Whose gonna kick my ass? You?
I'm polite to those that are polite back. You are a fucking douchbag who wouldn't last two minutes in a real survival situation. I would bet my life against yours anyway you cut it son. And homophobic? I don't like white trash like you or black trash. Does that make one racist? Thanks again for the laughs.
And anything I say on these boards I would say to your fucking ugly face! Rest assured about that
Snake, you are the kind of guy that us Boggy's would take out in the swamp and feed to the gators. Ironically...no one would likely miss ya kid.
I'm confident your posse isn't enough to do jack shit. But if it makes you feel better grandpa I can send you a blow up doll with a big chin head you can torture! _______________________________________________________________
"If guns kill people then spoons make us fat!"
Actual survival rate of people outside of the city - Donner party
Four girls aged three and under died; two survived. No girls between the ages of 4 and 16 died.
Four boys aged three and under died; none survived. Six boys between the ages of 4 and 16 died.
All the adult males who survived the entrapment (Breen, Eddy, Foster, Keseberg) were fathers.
All the bachelors (single males over age 21) who were trapped in the Sierra died.
The most well trained, most experienced in wilderness survival - died. They were the Indian scouts. Killed for food by people with children.
Myth that families escaping the city are a liability = myth. Show facts. Myth that people without children survive better than those with children in disaster situations = busted
Military / police will give priority to evacuating children and families. Escaping cities will be easier for people with families. They will get top priority on transportation, food, medical, housing, clothing. All actual data on disasters proves that to be the case. Provide data to bust myth, not more myth.
Remember the G4 guy who died of hypothermia when he and his family got lost off of a logging road during the winter?
Part of the thing that gets young men killed first is that they are the first ones, especially when it is their family, to make major sacrifices to save their family (plus other woman and children).
Sometimes they even needlessly put themselves into harms way in hopes that their family, or those they are trying to protect, do not have to.
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS- Someone gets it.
I have several years of canned goods stored up, and several months of bottles water. That being said, where I live water is a non issue. Like, totally non issue. I am surrounded by more fresh water in my region than most continents.