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~~Snake~~
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| 06-28-2012 10:20 AM / profile
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You just forced Americans to buy a product. Many small companies now will go out of business. Great job messiah in destroying this country
SCOTUS and fuck you for upholding the mandate.
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Killet
I Worship GoddessWolfie
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| 06-28-2012 10:21 AM / profile
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just another stake in the heart of freedom, just another day in the obama whitehouse
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~~Snake~~
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| 06-28-2012 10:22 AM / profile
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Originally posted by: Killet
just another stake in the heart of freedom, just another day in the obama whitehouse 6-3 decision. Wtf was John Roberts thinking. Sad. Now healthcare is a tax
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Nathan Bedford Forrest
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| 06-28-2012 10:43 AM / profile
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Benito would be proud!
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See through the propaganda. Stop empowering and enriching the state by cheering its wars. Set aside the television talking points. Look at the world anew, without the prejudices of the past, and without favoring your own government’s version of things. Be decent. Be human. Do not be deceived by the Joe Bidens, the John McCains, the Barack Obamas and Hillary Clintons. Reject the biggest government program of them all. Peace builds. War destroys.
-Lew Rockwell
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~~Snake~~
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| 06-28-2012 10:49 AM / profile
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Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
Benito would be proud!
Yup. This is truly a sad day in American history
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burn!
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| 06-28-2012 10:54 AM / profile
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Today is the day he loses the election. I bet his numbers in the polls fall - the bill is pretty unpopular.
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Pillbug
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| 06-28-2012 10:54 AM / profile
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Originally posted by: burn!
Today is the day he loses the election. I bet his numbers in the polls fall - the bill is pretty unpopular.
Bump, then fall.
The only thing that makes being sick worse, is being sick in a sick economy.
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Water Demon
Going to Hell? I'll Bring the 3 Inch
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| 06-28-2012 11:07 AM / profile
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Soooooo how's Canada these days?
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Nathan Bedford Forrest
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| 06-28-2012 11:15 AM / profile
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See through the propaganda. Stop empowering and enriching the state by cheering its wars. Set aside the television talking points. Look at the world anew, without the prejudices of the past, and without favoring your own government’s version of things. Be decent. Be human. Do not be deceived by the Joe Bidens, the John McCains, the Barack Obamas and Hillary Clintons. Reject the biggest government program of them all. Peace builds. War destroys.
-Lew Rockwell
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Smiling Canadian
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| 06-28-2012 11:43 AM / profile
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Originally posted by: Water Demon
Soooooo how's Canada these days?
Western Canada is doing just fine. Eastern Canada on the other hand is becoming more of a feted cesspool of douchebagery every day.
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[-NM-] -SS-
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| 06-28-2012 11:55 AM / profile
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Snake, it was 5-4 ruling.
The 5-4 decision means the huge overhaul, still taking effect, will proceed and pick up momentum over the next several years, affecting the way that countless Americans receive and pay for their personal medical care.
The left can enjoy this Pyrrhic victory for now, but all this decision has done is piss off ALOT of people who were sitting on the fence. Now they have something to vote against -Owebama.
They just gave Romney the win in 2012.
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=>PX<=Major
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| 06-28-2012 11:55 AM / profile
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Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
Benito would be proud!
Yup. This is truly a sad day in American history
And to think it was your homie that was the architect...
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| 06-28-2012 12:05 PM / profile
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You know...
I am wondering if Roberts did this for other reasons... not to side with the left end of the court either.
Hmmmmm....
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~~Snake~~
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| 06-28-2012 12:22 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: =>PX<=Major
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
Benito would be proud!
Yup. This is truly a sad day in American history
And to think it was your homie that was the architect... My homie was not the architect. In fact the plan in his state had many big differences. Or is state and federal bills the same in your world?
But I'm sure Obama is a better choice than Bush right?
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~~Snake~~
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| 06-28-2012 12:27 PM / profile
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Here was a good opinion on this posted before the decision on why gov't healthcare sucks and why the average american is a rap listening dumb fuck who thinks money grows on tree's.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/06/27/why-im-afraid-supreme-court-ruling-on-obamacare/
Why I'm afraid of the Supreme Court's ruling on ObamaCare
By John Stossel
Published June 27, 2012
FoxNews.com
I’m scared.
I fear that even if the Supreme Court overrules most of ObamaCare, Republicans will join Democrats in restoring “good” parts of the law, like the requirement that insurance companies cover kids up to age 26 and every American with a pre-existing condition.
Those parts of ObamaCare are popular. People like getting what they think is free stuff. But requiring coverage to age 26 makes policies cost more.
Even "Factor" host Bill O’Reilly lectures me that government should ban discrimination against those with pre-existing conditions. Most Americans agree with him.
Who likes discrimination?
Racial discrimination was one of the ugliest parts of American history. None of us wants to be discriminated against. But discrimination is part of freedom. We discriminate when we choose our friends or our spouse, or when we choose what we do with our time.
Above all, discrimination is what makes insurance work. An insurance regime where everyone pays the same amount is called “community rating.” That sounds fair. No more cruel discrimination against the obese or people with cancer. But community rating is as destructive as ordering flood insurance companies to charge me nothing extra to insure my very vulnerable beach house, or ordering car insurance companies to charge Lindsay Lohan no more than they charge you. Such one-size-fits-all rules take away insurance companies’ best tool: risk-based pricing. Risk-based pricing encourages us to take better care of ourselves.
Car insurance works because companies reward good drivers and charge the Lindsay Lohans more. If the state forces insurance companies to stop discriminating, that kills the business model.
No-discrimination insurance isn’t insurance. It’s welfare. If the politicians’ plan was to create another government welfare program, they ought to own up to that instead of hiding the cost.
Obama -- and the Clintons before him -- expressed outrage that insurance companies charged people different rates based on their risk profiles. They want everyone covered for the same “fair” price.
As I write in “No, They Can’t: Why Government Fails -- but Individuals Succeed,” the health insurance industry was happy to play along. They even offered to give up on gender differences.
Women go to the doctor more often than men and spend more on medicines. Their lifetime medical costs are much higher, and so it makes all the sense in the world to charge women higher premiums. But Massachusetts Democrat Sen. John Kerry pandered, saying, “The disparity between women and men in the individual insurance market is just plain wrong, and it has to change!” The industry caved. The president of its trade group, Karen M. Ignagni, said that disparities “should be eliminated.”
Caving was safer than fighting the president and Congress, and caving seemed to provide the industry with benefits. Insurance companies wouldn’t have to work as hard. They wouldn’t have to carefully analyze risk. They’d be partners with government -- fat and lazy, another sleepy bureaucracy feeding off the welfare state. Alcoholics, drug addicts and the obese won’t have to pay any more than the rest of us.
But this just kills off a useful part of insurance: encouraging healthy behavior. Charging heavy drinkers more for insurance gives them one more incentive to quit. “No-discrimination” pricing makes health care costs rise even faster. Is it too much to expect our rulers to understand this?
Of course, the average citizen doesn’t understand either. When I argue that medical insurance makes people indifferent to costs, I get online comments like: “I guess the 47 million people who don’t have health care should just die, right, John?”
The truth is, almost all people do get health care, even if they don’t have health insurance. Hospitals rarely turn people away; Medicaid and charities pay for care; some individuals pay cash; some doctors forgive bills.
I wish people would stop conflating the terms “health care,” “health insurance” and “ObamaCare.” Reporters ask guests things like: “Should Congress repeal health care?” I sure don’t want anyone’s health care repealed.
Reporters also routinely called ObamaCare health “reform.” But the definition of reform is: making something better. More government control won’t do that. We should call politicians’ insurance demands “big intrusive complex government micromanagement.”
Let the private sector work. Let it discriminate.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/06/27/why-im-afraid-supreme-court-ruling-on-obamacare/#ixzz1z6dThgRs
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=>PX<=Major
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| 06-28-2012 12:35 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Originally posted by: =>PX<=Major
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
Benito would be proud!
Yup. This is truly a sad day in American history
And to think it was your homie that was the architect... My homie was not the architect. In fact the plan in his state had many big differences. Or is state and federal bills the same in your world?
But I'm sure Obama is a better choice than Bush right?
A shit sandwich is still a shit sandwich, which would you prefer, white or whole wheat? Wait, we all know the answer to that question!
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samUwell
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| 06-28-2012 12:37 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
You know...
I am wondering if Roberts did this for other reasons... not to side with the left end of the court either.
Hmmmmm....
duh!
this paves the way; it actually solidifies corporatism in this nation. seeing as how the darkie on the court worked for and pushes Monsanto on all of us, next up - American farmers can only buy and grow Monsanto products in this nation.
the list of what corporations can now force upon us is endless.
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[-NM-] -SS-
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| 06-28-2012 12:39 PM / profile
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Another thought:
Since Owebama set the standard for choosing which laws to enforce, then I am sure he will understand if the States ignore his.
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Killet
I Worship GoddessWolfie
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| 06-28-2012 12:44 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: samUwell
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
You know...
I am wondering if Roberts did this for other reasons... not to side with the left end of the court either.
Hmmmmm....
duh!
this paves the way; it actually solidifies corporatism in this nation. seeing as how the darkie on the court worked for and pushes Monsanto on all of us, next up - American farmers can only buy and grow Monsanto products in this nation.
the list of what corporations can now force upon us is endless.
I dunno, you really think our elected officials can and will be bought and paid for by big business? really?
/sarcasm
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[-NM-] -SS-
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| 06-28-2012 12:48 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: samUwell
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
You know...
I am wondering if Roberts did this for other reasons... not to side with the left end of the court either.
Hmmmmm....
duh!
this paves the way; it actually solidifies corporatism in this nation. seeing as how the darkie on the court worked for and pushes Monsanto on all of us, next up - American farmers can only buy and grow Monsanto products in this nation.
the list of what corporations can now force upon us is endless.
Uh, no.
That wasnt what I was alluding to.
Read Robert's opinion to understand what I am talking about.
Politics on both sides of the aisle always put their best spin on things to be persuasive. It's beneath that facade is what you really need to understand their intent.
But if you are up to it, start a thread about your hypothesis so I can read your solution to the problem as you see it.
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