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Nathan Bedford Forrest TeamWarfare Vet
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You recently asked me why I am so much more critical of the GOP than the Democrats. Here is a fantastic article that demonstrates many of my reasons.
Originally posted by: Thomas DiLorezo For the past century and a half the Republican Party has gratuitously labeled itself as "The Party of Great Moral Ideas." The Party of Great Moral Frauds is more like it. The party began as the party of mercantilism, corporate welfare, protectionist tariffs, constitutional subterfuge, central banking, and imperialism. Its 1860 presidential platform promised not to disturb Southern slavery; its first president supported the Fugitive Slave Act and the proposed "Corwin Amendment" to the Constitution that would have prohibited the federal government from ever interfering with Southern slavery; the party committed treason by "levying war upon the states" (the precise definition of treason in the Constitution) and murdering hundreds of thousands of fellow citizens in order to destroy the voluntary union of the states that was established by the founding fathers. It refused to do what Britain, Spain, France, the Dutch, Denmark, Sweden, and the Northern states in the U.S. had done about slavery and end it peacefully. Instead, it used the slaves as pawns in a war that was about consolidating all political power in Washington, D.C. in general, and in the hands of the Republican Party in particular.
Three months after the War to Prevent Southern Independence ended the Republican Party commenced a twenty-five year war of genocide against the Plains Indians, killing as many as 60,000 of them, including thousands of women and children, and putting the rest in concentration camps. It did this, according to General Sherman who orchestrated this horribly immoral crusade, to "make way for the railroads" that were being heavily subsidized by the Republican Party. It also plundered the conquered South with exorbitant taxes and the legalized theft of vast tracts of property by party hacks for a decade after the war (so-called "reconstruction"), while doing virtually nothing for the freed slaves. It did nothing while as many as 1 million former slaves died of disease shortly after the war in the worst public health disaster in American history.
The Grant administrations were most known for the colossal corruption associated with the building of the government-subsidized transcontinental railroads that was finally made public during the Credit Mobilier scandal.
The Republican Party has always been about disguising a lust for economic plunder with phony ideas about "freedom," "Christianity," "equality," "civilization,"and other nice-sounding words. The War to Prevent Southern Independence allowed it to finally usher in the Hamiltonian "American System" of high protectionist tariffs for the benefit of Northern manufacturers at the expense of everyone else; a nationalized money supply with its Legal Tender and National Currency Acts; and vast amounts of corporate welfare, starting with the government-subsidized railroad corporations. It created the internal revenue system, invented dozens of new taxes, created the military/industrial complex, ran up historically high levels of debt, and destroyed the founders’ system of federalism or states’ rights as a check on centralized governmental power.
The war of genocide against the Plains Indians was a way of socializing the cost of building the government-subsidized railroads. Having succeeded in eradicating the Indians, the Republican Party next turned to tiny little countries like Cuba and the Philippines to plunder under the usual phony excuse of spreading "freedom" and "the American way" around the globe. The Republican Party claimed to embrace the message of Reverend Josiah Strong’s 1885 book, Our Country, which proclaimed a supposedly sacred American duty to "civilize and Christianize inferior peoples." They portrayed themselves as one big gang of Mother Theresas, selflessly sacrificing endlessly for the benefit of strangers in foreign lands.
A particularly galling example of this spectacular hypocrisy and dishonesty is the conquest of the Kingdom of Hawaii. By the early 1890s American businessmen had been in Hawaii for many years as corporate sugar and pineapple growers. Encouraged by the Republican Party’s aggressive and imperialistic foreign policy, they sought to get the Party to overthrow the government of Hawaii and make it an American province under their political control. They wanted to turn it into the perfect Hamiltonian corporate welfare state, in other words. As described by Gregg Jones in Honor in the Dust: Theodore Roosevelt, War in the Philippines, and the Rise and Fall of America’s Imperial Dream (p. 23):
On January 14, [1893] Hawaii’s Queen Liliuokalani attempted to curb the power of U.S. commercial interests in the kingdom’s legislature by promulgating a new constitution. A thirteen-member coalition of Americans called the Committee of Safety angrily resisted. Two members, Judge Sanford Dole and businessman Lorrin Thurston, met secretly with U.S. envoy John Stevens and plotted to overthrow the monarchy. The committee’s armed militia promptly seized key buildings, triggering the landing of American troops. The group set up an ad hoc government headed by Dole . . .
The "Committee of Safety" employed a paramilitary organization called the "Honolulu Rifles" who were allied with its puppet political party in Hawaii known as the "Missionary Party." (Sanford Dole was the son of New England Yankee missionaries who migrated to Hawaii from Maine). The Honolulu Rifles forced the king of Hawaii to sign a new constitution that was known as the "bayonet constitution" because the King was literally threatened with being gutted by bayonets unless he signed the document, "Godfather" style. The new constitution disenfranchised all Asians (considered part of an "inferior race" by the Republican business elite) and most everyone else except for affluent landowners, most of whom were Americans and their business associates. It imposed Sanford Dole as puppet president. His cousin James Dole shortly thereafter founded the Dole Fruit Company which prospers to this day.
But before the Republican Party could get the U.S. Congress and the president to formally annex Hawaii, Democrat Grover Cleveland took office (in March of 1893) and killed their proposal, condemning "the lawless landing of the United States force at Honolulu." Grover Cleveland was the last Jeffersonian president of the United States and the last good Democrat. This, however, led to the political rise of the bloviating idiot and Master Race theorist Theodore Roosevelt (TR), the favorite president of today’s neo-conservatives. "It’s difficult to write a bad book about Theodore Roosevelt," neocon Charles Kessler of the Claremont Institute wrote in that organization’s book review tabloid in 1998. To fellow neocons William Kristol and David Brooks, Kessler wrote approvingly, TR "figures as a patron saint of American nationalism and energetic government."
In October of 1895 TR proclaimed to the Republican Club of Massachusetts that "I feel that it was a crime not only against the United States, but against the white race, that we did not annex Hawaii three years ago" (Jones, p. 24). He said this in response to the complaints made by his close friend and fellow Republican, Henry Cabot Lodge, that the Spanish and British empires had been conquering "all the waste places of the earth" and Americans were missing out on the fun since they were not yet sufficiently imperialistic.
As president, TR perfected the Republican Party’s policy of economic plunder through imperialism disguised by humanitarian rhetoric. He denounced the Jeffersonian-minded advocates of peace as "senile," "idiots," and "unhung traitors" (Green, p. 162). As discussed in Jim Powell’s excellent book, Bully Boy: The Truth About Theodore Roosevelt’s Legacy, TR essentially declared the U.S. government to be the world’s policeman; warned against what he called "the menace of peace"; and targeted for war Cuba, Hawaii, Venezuela, China, the Philippines, Panama, Chile, the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, and Canada. None of these military interventions or planned interventions had anything to do with national defense. "He asserted that the United States must intervene . . . when a nation failed to behave," wrote Powell. "All the great master races have been fighting races," Teddy Roosevelt the master race theorist proclaimed. It was in this way, writes Powell, that Teddy Roosevelt reinvigorated the "Party of Lincoln." I was Lincoln’s secretary of state William Seward, Powell reminds us, who wanted the U.S. to intervene if not conquer Canada,, Mexico, parts of Asia, the Caribbean, Cuba, Haiti, Culebra, French Guiana, Peurto Rico, and St. Batholomew.
U.S. Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler knew what he was talking about when he wrote in his famous monograph, War is a Racket, that "War is a racket. It always has been."
July 9, 2012
Thomas J. DiLorenzo is professor of economics at Loyola College in Maryland and the author of The Real Lincoln; Lincoln Unmasked: What You’re Not Supposed To Know about Dishonest Abe and How Capitalism Saved America. His latest book is Hamilton’s Curse: How Jefferson’s Archenemy Betrayed the American Revolution – And What It Means for America Today. His next book is entitled Organized Crime: The Unvarnished Truth About Government.
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Post edited by Nathan Bedford Forrest at 7/9/2012 12:00:24 PM
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See through the propaganda. Stop empowering and enriching the state by cheering its wars. Set aside the television talking points. Look at the world anew, without the prejudices of the past, and without favoring your own government’s version of things. Be decent. Be human. Do not be deceived by the Joe Bidens, the John McCains, the Barack Obamas and Hillary Clintons. Reject the biggest government program of them all. Peace builds. War destroys.
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~~Snake~~ TWL Member
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| 07-09-2012 03:08 PM / profile
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That guy sounds like a moron. _______________________________________________________________
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Mockery TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 04:17 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ That guy sounds like a mormon.
Fixed......now you can suck it's dick, buy it dinner, and cheerfully vote for him.
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~~Snake~~ TWL Member
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| 07-09-2012 04:18 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ That guy sounds like a mormon.
Fixed......now you can suck it's dick, buy it dinner, and cheerfully vote for him. You still mad RP got his butt handed to him? Don't worry because if Obama win we can thank the Paultards for his victory _______________________________________________________________
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Mockery TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 04:23 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ That guy sounds like a mormon.
Fixed......now you can suck it's dick, buy it dinner, and cheerfully vote for him. You still mad RP got his butt handed to him? Don't worry because if Obama win we can thank the Paultards for his victory
Last I checked.......you don't own my vote bitch.........
Perhaps if you bought me a pearl neckless, groveled and gobbled at my balls, and bought me dinner (like you do for the rest of the established GOP) you might be able to Woooo my vote out of me.
Instead you are too busy pandering to Hispanics......like Marc Rubio and fundamentalists like Rick Santorum.
So don't act surprised that when you finally make your bed and nobody wants to sleep in it with you.
If Romney elects Ron Paul, or Rand Paul, as VP.......and swears an allegiance to shoot himself on inauguration day........I promise that Mitt Romney will get my vote.
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[-NM-] -SS- TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 04:25 PM / profile
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NBF: Interesting article. Before we go further, I will ask you this:
Do you subscribe to the progressive assertion that the Rep party of old was the Democratic party and that things switched circa 1950's-1960's?
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~~Snake~~ TWL Member
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| 07-09-2012 04:36 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ That guy sounds like a mormon.
Fixed......now you can suck it's dick, buy it dinner, and cheerfully vote for him. You still mad RP got his butt handed to him? Don't worry because if Obama win we can thank the Paultards for his victory
Last I checked.......you don't own my vote bitch.........
Perhaps if you bought me a pearl neckless, groveled and gobbled at my balls, and bought me dinner (like you do for the rest of the established GOP) you might be able to Woooo my vote out of me.
Instead you are too busy pandering to Hispanics......like Marc Rubio and fundamentalists like Rick Santorum.
So don't act surprised that when you finally make your bed and nobody wants to sleep in it with you.
If Romney elects Ron Paul, or Rand Paul, as VP.......and swears an allegiance to shoot himself on inauguration day........I promise that Mitt Romney will get my vote. So much emotion! I like logic better. It's logically in Paultards interests to vote someone in who would take the country in the right direction all while building up people's confidence that Paultards are not complete dumbfucks.
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Mockery TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 04:42 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ That guy sounds like a mormon.
Fixed......now you can suck it's dick, buy it dinner, and cheerfully vote for him. You still mad RP got his butt handed to him? Don't worry because if Obama win we can thank the Paultards for his victory
Last I checked.......you don't own my vote bitch.........
Perhaps if you bought me a pearl neckless, groveled and gobbled at my balls, and bought me dinner (like you do for the rest of the established GOP) you might be able to Woooo my vote out of me.
Instead you are too busy pandering to Hispanics......like Marc Rubio and fundamentalists like Rick Santorum.
So don't act surprised that when you finally make your bed and nobody wants to sleep in it with you.
If Romney elects Ron Paul, or Rand Paul, as VP.......and swears an allegiance to shoot himself on inauguration day........I promise that Mitt Romney will get my vote. So much emotion! I like logic better. It's logically in Paultards interests to vote someone in who would take the country in the right direction all while building up people's confidence that Paultards are not complete dumbfucks.
You like logic.......
You couldn't find logic on a Fox News Map that the GOP sketched out for you. You are the most illogical person, not to mention closed mined, I've ever tried to have conversation with on the internet.
What you fail to grasp, because you are such a small minded twit, is that Romney will take the country in the SAME direction that Obama currently is.
Less Rights........Bigger Government..........More Spending.........More Bailouts........More Wars........More dicksucking and pandering toward illegal immigrants, the FED, and every other parasitic entity sucking this country dry.
Mitt Romney is to Obama........as Obama has been to GW Bush.
Unless you are an evangelical fundy......who benches a Presidency off of Social Conservativism, instead of fiscal Conservativism, there isn't a dimes worth of difference between any of them.
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~~Snake~~ TWL Member
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| 07-09-2012 04:45 PM / profile
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Need a tissue? You done whining and crying?
How is Romney gonna do the same thing as Obama? I love dimwits like you Paultards. You don't even know what Romney stands for but buy into the Paultard koolaid that RP is the only one to save us.
Seriously. Thank you for all the laughs. You remind me of a Jerry Springer episode _______________________________________________________________
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| 07-09-2012 04:45 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: Mockery
.... and every other parasitic entity sucking this country dry.
Hey!
I resemble that remark! You know us retired military warmongering scum didnt do shit to earn any kind of retirement -we arent valued public sector workers.
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Mockery TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 04:51 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: Mockery
.... and every other parasitic entity sucking this country dry.
Hey!
I resemble that remark! You know us retired military warmongering scum didnt do shit to earn any kind of retirement -we arent valued public sector workers.
You guys were essentially slaves........sent to do shit work for shit pay (compared to privatized war profiteers).
Whatever disability, retirement, compensation you get from the US government is more than deserved and warranted. Especially considering so many people get it for free without ever making such personal sacrifices and undergoing such hardship........
If there is one group of people who you wont hear me bitch about being overpaid for their efforts it's the servicemen in the US Military.
Contractors......are still on my bitch block!!
Edit......and perhaps the Air Force. Them some lazy fuckers too. Post edited by Mockery at 7/9/2012 4:53:38 PM
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Mockery TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 04:52 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ Need a tissue? You done whining and crying?
How is Romney gonna do the same thing as Obama? I love dimwits like you Paultards. You don't even know what Romney stands for but buy into the Paultard koolaid that RP is the only one to save us.
Seriously. Thank you for all the laughs. You remind me of a Jerry Springer episode
As I've posted before, Snakeypoo.......(with the 2nd Amendment contradiction)
I can explain it to you in thorough detail, but I unfortunately can't understand it for you........
That would require some shred of effort on your part (and you are on a tablet, clearly incapable of that).
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Nathan Bedford Forrest TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 04:55 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS- NBF: Interesting article. Before we go further, I will ask you this:
Do you subscribe to the progressive assertion that the Rep party of old was the Democratic party and that things switched circa 1950's-1960's?
Nope. The Republican Party is essentially nothing more than the Whig Party with a new name, which was nothing more than the Federalist Party with a new name. They renamed themselves after various scandals ruined each party's reputation.
The only switches that took place were the Republican's switching rhetoric (small government, free market, etc) and the Democrats switched their platform entirely from being based on Jeffersonianism to being based on Marxism.
The Republican Party has always been about corporate welfare and nationalistic imperialism. That has never changed. Granted, there were small contingents within the party that resisted the platform as a whole, but they were of little or no long term effect.
The best examples are Robert Taft and Ron Paul.
Post edited by Nathan Bedford Forrest at 7/9/2012 4:57:19 PM
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See through the propaganda. Stop empowering and enriching the state by cheering its wars. Set aside the television talking points. Look at the world anew, without the prejudices of the past, and without favoring your own government’s version of things. Be decent. Be human. Do not be deceived by the Joe Bidens, the John McCains, the Barack Obamas and Hillary Clintons. Reject the biggest government program of them all. Peace builds. War destroys.
-Lew Rockwell
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~~Snake~~ TWL Member
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| 07-09-2012 04:58 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ Need a tissue? You done whining and crying?
How is Romney gonna do the same thing as Obama? I love dimwits like you Paultards. You don't even know what Romney stands for but buy into the Paultard koolaid that RP is the only one to save us.
Seriously. Thank you for all the laughs. You remind me of a Jerry Springer episode
As I've posted before, Snakeypoo.......(with the 2nd Amendment contradiction)
I can explain it to you in thorough detail, but I unfortunately can't understand it for you........
That would require some shred of effort on your part (and you are on a tablet, clearly incapable of that). Don't worry Mock. I'm well versed in what Mitts goals are. As a fiscal conservative I'm 100% confident he is gonna cut spending and reduce the govt.  _______________________________________________________________
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Mockery TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 05:02 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ Need a tissue? You done whining and crying?
How is Romney gonna do the same thing as Obama? I love dimwits like you Paultards. You don't even know what Romney stands for but buy into the Paultard koolaid that RP is the only one to save us.
Seriously. Thank you for all the laughs. You remind me of a Jerry Springer episode
As I've posted before, Snakeypoo.......(with the 2nd Amendment contradiction)
I can explain it to you in thorough detail, but I unfortunately can't understand it for you........
That would require some shred of effort on your part (and you are on a tablet, clearly incapable of that). Don't worry Mock. I'm well versed in what Mitts goals are. As a fiscal conservative I'm 100% confident he is gonna cut spending and reduce the govt. 
Granted I know you have your head up his ass......
But unfortunately that isn't sound enough to defy what Romney has said with his other orifice.
But one indication can be found in Cato Institute’s “Fiscal Policy Report Card on America’s Governors” for 2006, his last year in office. Cato awarded Romney a grade of “C” for his performance that year.
Cato ranked him 12th among the 50 governors — still well above average. Cato also gave him a “final overall grade” of “C” for his entire term in office, and put him fourth among the eight governors (all Republicans) who were leaving office.
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/romneys-fiscal-conservative-whopper/
If you want to settle for a C average.......then you might as well elect and settle for another dummy like John Kerry/GW Bush (oh, wait, you already did).
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Nathan Bedford Forrest TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 05:04 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ Need a tissue? You done whining and crying?
How is Romney gonna do the same thing as Obama? I love dimwits like you Paultards. You don't even know what Romney stands for but buy into the Paultard koolaid that RP is the only one to save us.
Seriously. Thank you for all the laughs. You remind me of a Jerry Springer episode
As I've posted before, Snakeypoo.......(with the 2nd Amendment contradiction)
I can explain it to you in thorough detail, but I unfortunately can't understand it for you........
That would require some shred of effort on your part (and you are on a tablet, clearly incapable of that). Don't worry Mock. I'm well versed in what Mitts goals are. As a fiscal conservative I'm 100% confident he is gonna cut spending and reduce the govt. 
Didn't you expect that from George W. Bush?
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See through the propaganda. Stop empowering and enriching the state by cheering its wars. Set aside the television talking points. Look at the world anew, without the prejudices of the past, and without favoring your own government’s version of things. Be decent. Be human. Do not be deceived by the Joe Bidens, the John McCains, the Barack Obamas and Hillary Clintons. Reject the biggest government program of them all. Peace builds. War destroys.
-Lew Rockwell
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Mockery TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 05:06 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ Need a tissue? You done whining and crying?
How is Romney gonna do the same thing as Obama? I love dimwits like you Paultards. You don't even know what Romney stands for but buy into the Paultard koolaid that RP is the only one to save us.
Seriously. Thank you for all the laughs. You remind me of a Jerry Springer episode
As I've posted before, Snakeypoo.......(with the 2nd Amendment contradiction)
I can explain it to you in thorough detail, but I unfortunately can't understand it for you........
That would require some shred of effort on your part (and you are on a tablet, clearly incapable of that). Don't worry Mock. I'm well versed in what Mitts goals are. As a fiscal conservative I'm 100% confident he is gonna cut spending and reduce the govt. 
Didn't you expect that from George W. Bush?
He still thinks he got that under George W. Bush......
That's what is so fucking embarrassing and painful about Snake.
There is the world he lives in and the world that everyone else is physically experiencing.
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[-NM-] -SS- TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 05:08 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS- NBF: Interesting article. Before we go further, I will ask you this:
Do you subscribe to the progressive assertion that the Rep party of old was the Democratic party and that things switched circa 1950's-1960's?
Nope. The Republican Party is essentially nothing more than the Whig Party with a new name, which was nothing more than the Federalist Party with a new name. They renamed themselves after various scandals ruined each party's reputation.
The only switches that took place were the Republican's switching rhetoric (small government, free market, etc) and the Democrats switched their platform entirely from being based on Jeffersonianism to being based on Marxism.
The Republican Party has always been about corporate welfare and nationalistic imperialism. That has never changed. Granted, there were small contingents within the party that resisted the platform as a whole, but they were of little or no long term effect.
The best examples are Robert Taft and Ron Paul.
What about all the Dixiecrats who changed from (D) to (R) (except Robert 'KKK' Byrd) during the Civil Rights movement?
Isnt that convincing enough?
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Nathan Bedford Forrest TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 05:17 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS- NBF: Interesting article. Before we go further, I will ask you this:
Do you subscribe to the progressive assertion that the Rep party of old was the Democratic party and that things switched circa 1950's-1960's?
Nope. The Republican Party is essentially nothing more than the Whig Party with a new name, which was nothing more than the Federalist Party with a new name. They renamed themselves after various scandals ruined each party's reputation.
The only switches that took place were the Republican's switching rhetoric (small government, free market, etc) and the Democrats switched their platform entirely from being based on Jeffersonianism to being based on Marxism.
The Republican Party has always been about corporate welfare and nationalistic imperialism. That has never changed. Granted, there were small contingents within the party that resisted the platform as a whole, but they were of little or no long term effect.
The best examples are Robert Taft and Ron Paul.
What about all the Dixiecrats who changed from (D) to (R) (except Robert 'KKK' Byrd) during the Civil Rights movement?
Isnt that convincing enough?
That was called the "Southern Strategy" and was nothing but rhetoric. When has the Republican Party even given us fiscal responsibility or limited government? To my knowledge, never.
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See through the propaganda. Stop empowering and enriching the state by cheering its wars. Set aside the television talking points. Look at the world anew, without the prejudices of the past, and without favoring your own government’s version of things. Be decent. Be human. Do not be deceived by the Joe Bidens, the John McCains, the Barack Obamas and Hillary Clintons. Reject the biggest government program of them all. Peace builds. War destroys.
-Lew Rockwell
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~~Snake~~ TWL Member
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| 07-09-2012 05:26 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~ Need a tissue? You done whining and crying?
How is Romney gonna do the same thing as Obama? I love dimwits like you Paultards. You don't even know what Romney stands for but buy into the Paultard koolaid that RP is the only one to save us.
Seriously. Thank you for all the laughs. You remind me of a Jerry Springer episode
As I've posted before, Snakeypoo.......(with the 2nd Amendment contradiction)
I can explain it to you in thorough detail, but I unfortunately can't understand it for you........
That would require some shred of effort on your part (and you are on a tablet, clearly incapable of that). Don't worry Mock. I'm well versed in what Mitts goals are. As a fiscal conservative I'm 100% confident he is gonna cut spending and reduce the govt. 
Didn't you expect that from George W. Bush?
No I didn't. Different times require different methods. _______________________________________________________________
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[-NM-] -SS- TeamWarfare Vet
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| 07-09-2012 05:31 PM / profile
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Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS- NBF: Interesting article. Before we go further, I will ask you this:
Do you subscribe to the progressive assertion that the Rep party of old was the Democratic party and that things switched circa 1950's-1960's?
Nope. The Republican Party is essentially nothing more than the Whig Party with a new name, which was nothing more than the Federalist Party with a new name. They renamed themselves after various scandals ruined each party's reputation.
The only switches that took place were the Republican's switching rhetoric (small government, free market, etc) and the Democrats switched their platform entirely from being based on Jeffersonianism to being based on Marxism.
The Republican Party has always been about corporate welfare and nationalistic imperialism. That has never changed. Granted, there were small contingents within the party that resisted the platform as a whole, but they were of little or no long term effect.
The best examples are Robert Taft and Ron Paul.
What about all the Dixiecrats who changed from (D) to (R) (except Robert 'KKK' Byrd) during the Civil Rights movement?
Isnt that convincing enough?
That was called the "Southern Strategy" and was nothing but rhetoric. When has the Republican Party even given us fiscal responsibility or limited government? To my knowledge, never.
So you are categorically stating that the parties never switched and have always remained the same?
Therefore, the democrats are yesterday's plantation owners?
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